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Silent_Angel June 27th, 2008 13:17

Please kepp the Airsoft bashing off the Airsoft forums, do it at your local paintball forums... By the sound of it, you never played Airsoft, or even took the time to research into it. DO NOT group our Airsoft with crappysoft/softair guns you find regularly at CT/walmart, its like comparing Flintstone's car (tho I love to have one lol) with an R8

ShelledPants June 27th, 2008 13:18

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Originally Posted by stevesawatsky (Post 754111)
did crosman just solve the global energy crisis?!

it could actually be possible... by using a heavier spring that not only pushes the piston, but also pushes a lever that re-cocks the gun. But it would be kind of useless, because instead of putting 100% of the springs energy into the bb, it would split between re-cocking the gun and pushing the bb. So your gun would be half as powerful (and the gun would surely be prone to internal breakage and failure).

again, that being said... if such a device does exist, i do not know about it, and i doubt it's available from crosman in an all-plastic piece.

I too was thinking about this. But then I realized, that to cock the weapon the first time would require 5 joules of energy to fire five shots at 1 joule, PLUS the energy required to cock the weapon... Which requires a minimum of 5 joules for the five shots, plus the amount to cock the weapon.

It's an impossible equation unless you implement a VERY complex switching setup so the weapon knows when you cock it versus when it's being shot and reacting from it's own blowback.

Do you know how hard it would be to pull back a 5 joule topslide?

Danke June 27th, 2008 13:19

It's a multi level marketing plan, and a diet suggested by be bible! You and five friends literally cannot loose!

I bet this this thing has a spring too. I forsee a long summer of brap brap now that school's done.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p230/Dan-ke/noob.jpg

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Originally Posted by stevesawatsky (Post 754111)
did crosman just solve the global energy crisis?!

it could actually be possible... by using a heavier spring that not only pushes the piston, but also pushes a lever that re-cocks the gun. But it would be kind of useless, because instead of putting 100% of the springs energy into the bb, it would split between re-cocking the gun and pushing the bb. So your gun would be half as powerful (and the gun would surely be prone to internal breakage and failure).

again, that being said... if such a device does exist, i do not know about it, and i doubt it's available from crosman in an all-plastic piece.


Silent_Angel June 27th, 2008 13:25

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Originally Posted by Ruiz. (Post 754091)
Cause I'm canadian and I happen to like airsoft? I'm just not down for wasting 600$ on a sport that barely exists here. You put all that together and it isn't that hard to understand why I made this topic. Now any further, helpful replies are welcome, if you wanna be an idiot, stay the fuck out of this thread. By they way, you sall me a dumb troll, yet you spelt "you" as "u" and how the fuck am I a troll in my own topic lmao.

TokyoSeven: I have a bb gun, but airsoft is just kinda like an inexpensive way to practice for paintball you know? Thanks.


$600 is just a starting fee, something that a seriouse paintballer will dump just for ammo. So in the long run Airsoft is not that bad.

What your describing isn't airsoft, its softair (under-performing guns prone to mechanical failure, using sub-standard .12g bbs which have sub-standard range and power, perfect for basement plinking and thats all unless you try to upgrade it.)

Actually I mean actually looking to the fourms, our sports is not barely exiting, is just under the radar too keep compliation from arrising from soccer moms, anti-firearm (anti-anything that looks like a gun) activitist from over reacting, its like of a grey are a in the law. Just because its not telvised, sponsered, over populated by minors doesn't mean its near non-existant.

Back to topic, if Crossman really made it then I'd expect to fail/brake in very shot order due to complex internals. Thats IF they actually made it at all.

Styrak June 27th, 2008 13:28

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Originally Posted by Ruiz. (Post 754100)
I don't really know how much clearer I can be. Semi automatic pistol, not using a battery or gas, rather simply using 1 initial cocking of the pistol and, after the first show is fired, it cocks the pistol automatically for the next shot due to the force on the spring. Therefore it is semi automatic. The term spring air repeater is just what the mechanism is called by crosman. The difference between this and other "springers" is the fact that you don't need to cock it each time you want to shoot a bb.

Stop lying.

ShelledPants June 27th, 2008 13:29

From what I've gathered on the interwebz:

The term "spring air repeater" is a marketing ploy. It's implying that you can fire multiple shots without manually loading the weapon after each shot. In other words:

You cock. Weapon loads the bb into the chamber from the magazine. You pull the trigger. Gun fires. Repeat.

The OP has invented it in his head that it's the saviour of the crapsoft world.

pusangani June 27th, 2008 13:29

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Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 754122)
From what I've gathered on the interwebz:

The term spring air repeater is a marketing ploy. It's implying that you can fire multiple shots without reloading. In other words:

You cock. Weapon loads the bb into the chamber from the magazine. You pull the trigger. Gun fires. Repeat.

it's really not that complicated, anyone with even the barest minimum of common sense could figure that out

ShelledPants June 27th, 2008 13:32

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Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 754123)
it's really not that complicated, anyone with even the barest minimum of common sense could figure that out

I have to admit. When I saw the description "Spring air repeater" on the crossman website, in comparison to the "Spring operated", I had to wonder what the fuck the OP was talking about.

And yes. Anyone who has handled an Airsoft weapon would understand that.

ProbeJax June 27th, 2008 14:32

If that crazy technology actually existed, don't you think all the real airsoft companies would be using it by now, instead of making EBBs and GBBs? You're talking about an airsoft gun that can power itself by force alone. Also, the only way people are going to discuss clearsoft with you here is if it involves cutting it apart and slapping it on a "good" airsoft gun.

Bowers June 27th, 2008 16:01

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Originally Posted by Silent_Angel (Post 754113)
Please kepp the Airsoft bashing off the Airsoft forums, do it at your local paintball forums... By the sound of it, you never played Airsoft, or even took the time to research into it. DO NOT group our Airsoft with crappysoft/softair guns you find regularly at CT/walmart, its like comparing Flintstone's car (tho I love to have one lol) with an R8

my grandfather made me one at his friends work place when i was 10 she ran like a dream i tell ya

wish i had pics of it still

as for this topic all i can say is this thread is completly fucked

Houston June 27th, 2008 16:34

obvious troll is obvious.

nobody can possibly be this ignorant

Bowers June 27th, 2008 16:43

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Originally Posted by Houston (Post 754255)
obvious troll is obvious.

nobody can possibly be this ignorant

well he is a paintballer

very few people recover from paintball retardation

pusangani June 27th, 2008 16:49

lol another day another troll.

NoGear June 27th, 2008 21:40

why ask questions on crapsoft you can just buy the gun try it out u don't like it return and get your money back rinse and repeat. 600$ on airsoft hmm thats for a pro well upgraded gun but great guns are over 1-2 grand here

Bowers June 27th, 2008 22:01

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Originally Posted by NoGear (Post 754498)
why ask questions on crapsoft you can just buy the gun try it out u don't like it return and get your money back rinse and repeat. 600$ on airsoft hmm thats for a pro well upgraded gun but great guns are over 1-2 grand here

are you on crack or something???

with the exception of a systema ptw no they dont


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