It is the same people who install bipod and beta mag to mp5 and think it is LMG :)

Well it may look wrong, but its not wrong. It makes it look like a Grizzly shotguns : http://www.theammosource.com/images/Norincomagfed15.jpg

Grizzly shotgun (real steel) is for sale in Canada, non-restricted license. Price is just 399$

Tokyo Marui M870 was priced to me at ASC at ~700$! I actually join airsoft to save money. Now I am not sure I made correct decision. %-(

You didn't make the right choice if you're here to save money.

Thats why you just wait for someone to find a way to get them in at a more reasonable price. Rather than have someone rip you out the asshole simply because they understand a loophole better than you do.

No, you wait for TM to release a new version and then you scoop up the sales from the early adopters when they stampede for the latest release.

Start shooting it for a period of time, then you'll see the savings but only if you can restrain yourself from buying up more guns :D

I haven't seen savings for quite some time.

The Marui M870 is designed to do that, right out of the box.

Any Canadian retailers have this/can get this yet? For not ridiculous prices?

Feel like I'm searching for bigfoot.

My sources tell me that all of Hong Kong is currently out of supply, and are waiting for the next production run to complete and drop on them. ETA for next shipment is currently slated for January 2014.

4 months?! Are they growing them on the trees? My girlfriend can make a baby if you double it.

Seriously TM is loosing money. I am sure we will see cheap knockoffs and replicas into the next summer. It will be much harder to sell it then.

I hope this doesn't have to do with the "recall" rumored on arnies...

I'm not up to date on this "recall"... what's the basis of this rumor?

I highly doubt that.

For what it's worth, every single Marui release has encountered the same issue. This is not new. It's just more noticeable this time, as this is THE shotgun that everyone's been waiting for. Marui is doing their best to follow up on this demand, but they are not willing to sacrifice quality control just to pump out product on the street at the expense of quality.

Many Veterans who've played airsoft for a very long time have experienced different brands and whatnot. TM has never failed me nor do i see it doing so in the foreseeable future. obviously there are cheaper alternatives that one can buy, however veterans who spend TLC on their guns, usually tend to buy TM GBB Pistols due to reliability and upgradability. Its like comparing a Stock WE to a Stock TM Hi-capa for example. Yes the TM is made of ABS Plastic but it still out performs a Stock WE any day. Newer players may not want to dump hundreds or even Thousands of dollars into a TM pistol for example. does not mean that TM is loosing money because many people buy them as a base guns to build super awesome sexy guns like the ones ILLusion builds :D


TM still has their customer base and It was no surprise that the TM M870 sold out so fast. I have friends in HK that are trying to "monopolize" them as well.

@ILLusion, I'm sure it can be found in some small stores in Mong Kok, however all the large retailers like Redwolf,Ehob, UN and WGC have all sold out from what I know.

Saw some m870s from when my friend showed me a week ago when he faced timed me, some at Hero Arms and some small stores in MK.