M203 Smoke Grenades
 

Do you have to make a home made one? or does anyone know of any you can purchase pre made for the m203 launcher?

The only I saw on youtube is this what seems to be a home made one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmalf...os=5FLQ-KLxLQk

I see a lot of ones where you need to light up and toss, but havnt seen a self light one.

Also, I know you can buy those universal shells madbull makes and put baby powder in them, but it really sucks lol.

Home made on are NO NO, why? Can you be 100% sure it's gonna be cold burn? If its cold burn can you be sure it doesnt start a fire? It's unlikely to say yes to both.

As for Smoke Grenades... Yould buy the Actual 40mm smoke those are legal, not cheap in Canada, but the launcher will be expensive (they're not considered as firearms) Talking about 4k+

I don't know of any produced premade launch-able smoke grenades exist for airsoft.

Most smoke grenades burn hot and because of this many field owners have barred the use of these on their fields due to risk of fire.

There are marine emergency smoke grenades available from some surplus stores and some boating supply stores. They are cold burning and pull string ignited and emit a massive amount of orange smoke for a fairly long duration. These will definitely not fit in any standard launcher as they are way to large.

You mean I could purchase actual M676/M680/M682/M713/M714/M715/M716 and an M203...

But what if I were to fire one off and it bounces off the ground and smacks someone in the back of the head? (Anyone know the reference?)

Generation kill reference?

The last paintball game I went to outdoor, people used smoked nades. At Camp X in Oshawa area.

I know some people dont let it, and some are okay with it.

They tried a "cold" smoke marine grenade out here and started a decent sized fire with it. There may be no exposed flame but the canister creates enough heat to ignite dry brush.

As for chucking large solid objects out of a launcher the stuff that most folks seem OK with are dried peas, or cheap BBs, tennis balls, nerf footballs and rockets, and Madbull foam rockets.

Well I wanted to talk to the guys at Toronto CQB paintball about using it in their outdoor field. If you ever been. its not really and outdoor field with trees etc that can really get burnt.

excess smoke in an urban environment might not be a good thing. there are some residential buildings in the area and the smoke may bring unwanted attention.

also, for CQB outdoor, if there is little to no wind, the smoke will likely not dissipate as quickly as one may like, since the outdoor field is essentially an enclosed area

who knows. romulus might clear them

I see. My dreams to use my m203 as a smoke launcher seems to be disappearing :(

M203's don't launch thr actual grenade so i don't know how you'd expect it to work

AI is coming out with a launchable tornado grenade but that's not out yet and it only releases bb's on impact

It works like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmalf...os=5FLQ-KLxLQk

This seem more of a home made method which I dont think people like too much. If its not home made, I would like to inquire about pin pull smoke nades if anything. Still launchable seems still interesting. any ETA on it?

Edit:
Found this video on pin pull nades, might be what I'm looking for. but now to see if any fields will allow this.

YouTube- pull pin smoke bomb


I was looking into the tornado grenade, but I'm looking for something that is more disposable vs something I need to go pick up after the game.

From my understand you cannot purchase a 40mm grenade launcher in Canada without having a certain license. But you CAN purchase a 37mm FLARE launcher (even without a PAL), which looks just like the M203. They are about $400 each plus the cost of the adapter to fire the 12 gauge flares.

You can buy 37mm smoke grenades if you can find them (most places only sell to law enforcement) and if you are lucky enough to have the licenses you can actually reload the 37mm (or 40mm) practice grenades (Heavy Plastic Grenade overtop a real shell)

Here is a picture of my gun btw.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._6873392_n.jpg

G&P M4 GBBR
M203 Echo Launcher.

BTW, the 37mm flare launcher looks pretty sweet.

You only need to have a special license to get them in Canada, but buying them for a retailer doesn't require any license. However they are expensive none the less.

I think, Drache talking about real steel 40 mm grenade launcher.

thats an airsoft one.....

they mean a REAL one. because the airsoft one woul NOT be able to fire a 40mm smoke grenade.

your can buy REAL 37mm ones (yes without a pal) you can also buy REAL 40mm ones, they are considered unrestricted, however they cost 8k, and their ammo is obviously illegal, albeit the smoke round.

you'll only be able to set off a 40mm smoke grenade with a REAL 40mm launcher, the striking pin on the airsoft one will not be strong enough to set off the shell of a smoke grenade to launch it, or it could and the launcher could fail right in your hands leaving them probably burnt (dead if you somehow manage to get an explosive one)

I see!

Well I wouldnt want to buy a real steal m203. Not here to kill people, here to play airsoft ;P

Dude, who mention anything about killing people.

the m203 is just the means of delivering the munition, if you don't use the explosive round (which you won't, cause you can't get them) your not killing anybody, however yes, a smoke round can impact the ground and ricochet up into an old arab man's skull dropping him like a doe. or you could catch the field on fire possibly killing the fatter ones who can't outrun the grass fire...

on second thought, don't get a smoke grenade period.


check with your field, they'll give you the rundown on them and say yay or nay, then use the cold burning hand thrown ones. airsoft tube launchers are not here yet, too dangerous anyway


also the real steel launcher would damage airsoft 40mm's it's be for RS smoke nades only, and narrow niche weapons really suck I speak from experience

Again, not looking to shoot real smoke grenades. I'm talking airsoft friendly smoke grenades. Check the video post i posted for an example.

However it is good to know the options.

Edit

Okay I found out that video wasnt a home made nade. It uses a Sport Smoke Tactical Grenade
YouTube- Sport Smoke Tactical Smoke Grenade - Urban Ops Armory

This is pretty much my answer/solution, thanks for all the help guys. These smoke nades are pretty expensive though. Might be better off making my own.

I did and the first one in the foreign language is a real 40mm smoke that he took a real 40mm and mounted it to a paintball gun (thats why everyone was talking about real ones). there is no airsoft friendly tube launched smoke.

the other ones are all hand thrown, which depends on the field and what the want. (they will often make you buy a specific brand/type they trust, all others could be prohibited on their field so check)

those tactical smoke ones are ridiculously overpriced I can get ones here in canada for $8 that produce the same effect in different colours also... I like the purple ones

However there are airsoft friendly tube launched sex toys.

I dont think its a real 40mm m203. He is using a Madbull Shell or the Rap4 Shells to shoot out the Smoke grenade.

http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...roducts_id=877

http://www.rap4.com/paintball/os/m68-thunder-grenade

oop my bad, I must've yawned when he loaded the smoker into the tube I only saw the metal shell go in.

ya that could work.

however everything I said above still stands, no 40mm airsoft specific smoker out there. plus smoke is really iffy as it is they catch things on fire pretty easily, "cold burning" or not

Yeah seems that way. I talked to a few outdoor field owners about the smoke grenades. Some are okay with it, some are not. Last game I played they used smoke hand grenades and was consider to be allowed.

that prolly shouldnt be posted here where the kiddies can see lol
the real 203 that is

Be sweet if MadMax could creat a AI Smoke Storm grenade, now that would be sweet. Solid and reusable like the Tornado, yet safe to use everywhere.....

What's the difference between cold smoke and hot smoke? I assuming the hot smoke just burns quicker, where the cold smoke has a larger amount of baking soda in it?

The normal smoke grenade/rocket engine formula is kno3+sugar+baking soda, where the baking soda controls the rate of the reaction by releasing co2 as it is heated.

All the cold smokes I've seen use a chemical reaction to generate smoke not a pyrotechnic one.

They'd still burn your hand if you held onto them or start a fire in dry brush.

theres a very ghetto idea. baby powder.

Z-z-z-z-z-zombie post..


now back on topic
Co2 shell in the launcher.
pull pin of smoke grenade
drop down the tube
shoot
pray it goes where you want it.