Super Heros in airsoft
 

I have a friend who really likes batman & is planning on getting a replica costume from UD replicas (check em out, it looks awesome.) My question is is there a place for "super heros" in milsim games? He sai he'd wanna rely on stealth and touch kills (true to batman style) Ignoring how hard that would be would players enjoy a "third party" in a game like that? Maybe picton field as Gotham with GCPD vs arkum asylum inmates? I think it's be cool, what do you guys think? Fight along side batman?

umm, if batman can stand up to a few guys firing full auto at him repeatedly...

but seriously, similar questions have been asked regarding masterchief armor and such.
has your friend ever actually attended a game?

I already play alongside a super hero.

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Stryker.

^---- LOL

To RITZ: he's never been airsofting but is a paintballer so he understands the basic dynamics, and that suit looks like it would cushion from much 6mm hurt. Master chief armor would be awesome.

And Viking: MY EYES CANNOT UNSEE

I will only play if theres a catwoman involved
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he does realize that if I hit his cape he is out, and there are no throwing weapons, or special gadgets.

I'd go just because I want to shoot him... repeatedly... does this make me a bad person?

I'd lol if I saw a dude in a batman costume on the field. He would not enjoy his day getting showered all day without "man-handling" anybody.

Lol yah I told him he'd quickly rethink his "batman ethos" and pick up a rifle

Could be a useful distraction device...

Are you talking new batman getup or the fashionable wear from the 1960's?

New batman: http://udreplicas.com/index.php?opti...w=article&id=9

And yes batman doesn't use gun but if he did I think he'd probably use an MP7, lightweight, easy to stow and deadly

And to be true to batman he couldn't even technically kill. So he would have to only detain or knock people unconscious. I'd say keep it for a halloween skirmish maybe, and comicon can always use another person dressed up like batman, but really don't think it has a place in milsim.

Wear it to a Zombie game

so batman would have to capture all the oposing force and "lock them up" in a designated area where the other inmates could break them out?....


also your buddy has played paintball.. tell him to try to play a game where he can only grab people.

Who are you?!?!?!?!?!?!

Im batman.......

hide the celery and run around mac gruber style

Isnt that game called rape? :p

Not if you yell "SURPRISE!"

At which point is becomes surprise buttsex

Don't let me catch all the villains... Lol

hahahaha even better


http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotat...&v=LmwsfNOrvGI

Two more gems from Toronto Batman.

HiMY SYeD -- Spider-Man vs. Toronto-Batman, TTC Subway Train Toronto Canada Monday Night July 2 2012 - YouTube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV4LjkPo5xY

I think there's some shared footage between the two clips. But one has stuff the other hasn't, so... yeah. That.

hows about exchanging batman with this fellow

my favourite hero.... if you live on the dark side of things that is....

someones villan is also some elses superhero..

( and yes ) that's actually me....

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and I am not into Grabbing the dude games....

I am armed with a 36 inch Cleaver and a Gattling gun built by a friend...

You guys know black isn't camo right? lol

And we do play with superheroes
Jonas, Kimbo, Davin, myself, and of course all the hardcore vets of the CF like peacekeeper and cold nomad lol

Those Toronto batman videos are too funny :D

I remember a while back a dude dressed up as spider man at an FR skirmish.
we deemed it OK as long as he carried 2x support weapons and a small Asian man (me ;)) on his back

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everything is ok if you do that

There was a guy at wolfpack a few years back and he played all day as Cobra Commander i never laughed so hard in my life.

God didn't make all men equal, (Insert firearm designer here) did.


As for your friend's ideal I say go for it in Skrimish CQB games, where milsim isn't the order of the day..... Heck I plan to show up to a CQB game one day with a Triad loadout.

Maybe the Game host will get creative with the unique loadout and make a game around it.

Wow, like NOBODY in the background is smiling at all... you Ontarian's have no sense of humor do ya...?
I gotta head back and bust out the M203 launcher.....

Looks like the average response is ranging from "My eyes hurt from this so I must close them" and "What the fuck did I sign up for..."

Tights are on backwards, ass goes to the rear. :)

NO

MIL(ITARY) SIM(ULATION)

Batman...is...not...real....


Say it with me now....


Batman...is...not...real....

I was there that day. I was laughing my ass off. I still remember that.

And if you look closely, there's a guy on the left border in the picture, looks like he's either choking or laughing.

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Let me finish my beer and I play with you guys.

Wow, you know as a goof it would be kinda neat, like we haven't had stormtroopers and Darth Vadar already, but this dude really wants to put on a bat suit and crawl around like a batninja. That works in Video games not milsim. Outside of Gothham, Gun beats ninja. 99 our 100 times.

Now if we we're talking about Ricky Bubbles and Jullian....

I'm with Blackthorne.

Military Simulation is military simulation. Batman can go to a ....ugh ....play with the ....ugh ....super hero simulation?

At milsims often small things are "allowed" as they aren't that big of a deal. But honestly, I think it should be kept modern military. If you want to be dressed in other era warfare gear, sci-fi guns and gear, or whatever else (like Batman); either find a game that is geared towards your play style, or a game that is open to all.

If someone showed up to one of our games dressed like Batman, I'd send him home immediately. No matter how far he drove to be there, and how much it cost him.

I know that i am very much in the minority here, but "GCPD vs Arkum Asylum Inmates" means absolutely nothing to me. I haven't seen any of the modern crop of Batman movies - indeed, my only real awareness of the so-called superhero genre is the 1960's Batman serialized TV-series that i watched as an ankle-biter in the early 1970's on Saturday mornings, and that has pretty much faded with time.

Same goes with Superman, Spiderman, Transformers, etc etc. Hell, i only just figured out the whole "raccoon city" resident evil thing recently, but at least that has some valid application to airsoft scenarios.

My point? Airsoft - milsim or skirmishes, is something that is based more on realistic situations where entire suspension of disbelief is not required. Some guy running around in a Batman suit playing grab-ass while other players are trying to get it on with tactics, strategy and engagements, isn't really in the realm of what i'd expect from airsoft. Indeed, i think i'd consider it mildly creepy.

If you must do it, then please be Wonderwoman, with the physique of Lynda Carter, so that i can at least rub one out for old time's sake while watching you from the safety of a bunker. That's a super hero that i also remember. (.. ok, that's creepy too, i do admit.)

But, that's just me, being older than the average player.

While I am of the mind that airsoft is no different than the LARP guys who run around with swords, I have to agree with most people here.

LARP = Live action role play. We're not soldiers, we're pretending to be in a game that we play outdoors in real life. Dispute it all you want, we're just wearing different costumes compared to the kids running around in the woods with swords. Unless it's a sanctioned military event, and you are a serving member, your nice CIRAS and drop leg holster, fancy camo and gloves are just part of a costume.

That being said, most games have an agreed upon feel and scenario even if its not publicly stated. Even period correct stuff is really off the wall depending on the era. If you show up with a muzzle loader replica in full civil war regalia, you are going to stand out in most games. Even with a WW2 load-out in some cases.

There ARE games where non-standard kit fits in awesomely, mainly Halloween and special "goofy" scenarios. Hell, i work some HALO ODST stuff to a Halloween game as I was a special character in the game. Would I wear it to any other game? Not likely, no.

I also agree that MilSim is LARP, BUT ... LARP is not MILSIM

:D

He has his gitch on backwards

Hey, they could be part of one of the the middle earth armies! :p

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Yeah Buddy
But she'll kick your ass if she finds you in a bunker!
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I personally would love seeing batman on the field ... and I would love it even more if he was actually really good at being stealthy ... I could imagine sitting in the bush, or in a room at picton, worried that behind any door or tree batman is there waiting for me lol ...

that said, I remember a while back people were talking about doing a GI joe game... why isnt this happening already? lol

Zombies....... ;)

No. There's no place for gay ass superheroes in airsoft.

LARP != airsoft*

* even if we dress up in military costumes and play with toy guns

There are plenty of groups that don't focus on milsim and take themselves much less seriously then people seem to here.

We've had Christmas themed games where people wore full Santa suits and had elf bodyguards, and spiderman has made an appearance or two (in costume only though, not so much in terms of backflips)

I agree there wouldn't be much batman could do in character against most airsoft guns though.

Bring it to Finches on a Skrim day.

I would think the only real way to pull off batman at a game would be at a night game though, with NVG ... again, im all for it

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did someone say LARP.... WTF is this anyway, Conan meets GI Joe?

Not really a super hero I guess but someone used to come in to play at Sgt. Splatters with a full ghost busters kit and gun modified to look exactly like the one in the movie.

I remember there was a guy who offered to dress up as Sailor Moon for a game..I think his name was Nooblord.

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LOLLL!

It entirely depends on function. Let's strip away the gear for a moment, and have competitive airsoft minus the gear. So basically you have a projectile weapon and normal clothing, while playing a competitive combat scenario. There is no acting, or goofy rules, just straight up shoot competition much like early paintball. Now you want to be more effective in game, so you need gear that is modular and helps with movement and concealment. The modern military has the best gear possible, so idealistically that's where you start. Now; a true competitive person will wear what is functional for the sport, not what looks cool or personal favorites. Personal touches will happen, but acceptably along the lines of team patches, or a personalized affect; much like athletes in soccer, hockey, etc.

In order to be more effective, you'll pick up things like nightvision, or weapon sights as they enhance your abilities. You may even use proper radio dialogue or military phonetics, but only what is affective to gameplay, not to appear more military like.

I don't copy a kit loadout of navy seals, marines, or any military denomination; and I certainly don't use any phonetics unless it's strictly functional or sport directive. I play competitively, and at no time feel like I'm a soldier, or am I diluted enough to think that Airsoft makes me look, act, or sound like one. I suppose that's why ex-military individuals use Airsoft as a competitive outlet much like those individuals that play with our team, or teams like ours.

I will admit however that milsim often employs a backstory, NPCs, and props designed around fiction and non-fiction world elements; to enhance game play. All of which are often very "strong" elements of role playing. But they are not used in the essential, identical context. Role playing literally means "playing a role". I'm never pretending to be someone else but myself. I'm me, using military grade equipment and tactics (due to effectiveness) to trounce the other team(s).

Although I have seen many individuals who use Airsoft as a role playing outlet, and put a lot of effort into their kits/costumes. Which is by far not what us milsim'rs, elitists, whatever you call us are doing. So realistically, airsoft; which is a Blanket term for anything that involving airsoft guns, is not really anything specific. But what we do (let's call it milsim for the moment), is to role playing what fencing is to L.A.R.P.. If it was more effective for someone who fences to use a samurai sword or dress like a Viking, they would. Sorry to any fencing players/enthusiasts as fencing is obviously a very old and refined sport; I was simply using it as an example. Our sport is relatively young, and I'm sure one day will have strict rules on kit, and league level orginization.

I'm not bashing the rest of you for doing whatever it is you are trying to do. But this is why there is always friction between groups at events. Operation Mason Relic, is a prime example where everyone from Mr. Vietnam kit, future soldier, or even Batman would within reason be accepted. But we do have events where that variety of stuff is not welcome, and you will see friction between groups. My personal opinion is that every event should have it's criteria or event type posted more clearly. No offense to anyone, but if I'm going to be competing alongside reinactors, or dudes dressed up like carebears with samurai swords; I want to know.

The big reason we have, what seems to be strict kit regulations, is because of exactly what we are talking about; the guy dressed like Batman. If one of our members showed up with let's say a "batman patch", we would be be more receptive to his mild personal flare. I have no problem with what your doing, but we will look at you as if you showed up to the arena with your foam L.A.R.P. Sword and said, "let's play some hockey!".

So in retrospect, we only ask that you keep your cosplay, L.A.R.P.'in ass out of serious combat games. Instead you can host a super hero, sci-fi, or whatever airsoft event, and we will equally respect you by staying the hell away from that. Because if Airsoft, or rather;competitive combat sports, milsim, or whatever you want to call even smelled a fart in tornado like L.A.R.P., we wouldn't touch it.

Now I play airsoft with everyone from D&D players, blue collar guys, down to a nearly twenty year vet of Canadian SSF. But when we hit the field it's clean, competitive, sportsmanlike. We only use what is functional, or enhances the sport.

Have a nice day!


P.S. For all you WOW players, of which I'm not. Check the new expansion trailer where it appears that Jack Black beats up a pirate and an Orc/ogre/something. Hilarious!

What the hell is going on in this pic? It looks like Paintball, Larp and Airsoft rolled in to one big clusterfuck.

modern version of D&D maybe? who knows.

I guess asking him to change into BDU's would be unacceptable? Remind me never to come to a game you're at, chuckles.

and how!!

secret :)

If the game rules stated for instance that it's say, tan versus green. Then showing up dressed like a super hero would show that you either; didn't read rules, felt like you could/should get away with it, don't have the right attitude to be out there, or are not smart enough to understand the game dynamic. Having just one of these traits makes ineligible to shoot projectiles at people. There isn't another way to look at it.

I was attending an event not that long ago, where an individual brought out a replica long sword stuffed into the back of his vest. This thing was near or more than four foot long. During the pre game meeting, he was stupid enough to ask if he could use it. Your standing in a sea of players decked out in modern military garb, and you pull out a sword?! The game coordinator let out a bewildered sigh when he told the individual, "no you can't". Now you've got everyone staring at you wondering, "Is he old enough, or mature enough to be here?". and this is the type of idiot who comes on the forums afterwards and complains how he was treated like a child by all the "elitist

i don't think the question here was "should I bring my friend to a milsim when he's dressed up like batman and not tell anyone, where he acts like batman in a military-styled operation?"

While it's a silly idea, i think that it could work in very specific settings. there are fun nights where you could do this. zombie games has come up a lot, and it could actually be a lot of fun. other nights where it is appropriate could be imagined as well.

Realistically, though, I don't think Batman would have much of a chance. Plus, the lack of physical contact would be an issue, and I don't much feel like getting hit by a harpoon gun, or a batarang. With proper rules, I could see this being both challenging and fun, as long as the shooters are looking to shoot each other, as well as batman. because really, he'll be able to "catch" one or two people, at most.

And this is what happens when you let SOME kids play airsoft. Before all the kiddes bitch about what I just said i do not mean all kids are like this. Some do take the game serious......others show up in bright shirts and shorts useing foam swords

it also looks like he's doing pretty good, for "some kid" in a bright shirt and foam sword.. I'm sure that the military styled operation that was obviously being undertaken suffered greatly from his prowess with a "sword"..

It's strange; but the few I've seen at games running around with just a blade, seem to have a unique ability to dodge BBs. I'm not saying all do this, but when you see an individual running around with only a rubber knife, hit calling goes out the window. For an experienced player a knife kill is very difficult to achieve; so that guy bragging he got several in a game, forgot to mention the five thousand rounds he got hit with attempting to get each one.

Another doozie I saw this season was at a very large popular game I was admining at. This guy was running around with just his knife, and ran out in front of several armed players. He was maybe eighty feet or less away from them, and somehow managed to not only cross extremely open ground with no cover not being shot, but managed to get close enough to almost stab one of them. This kind if blatant no hit calling should be met with immediate expulsion. I'd also plaster the individuals profile all over ASC so others would be in the lookout for him.

Remember that when people tolerate this kind of garbage with a soft approach it enevitably hurts the youths coming into this game that wish to take it seriously.

I've been to events that had guys dressed up like navy seals, starship troopers, Vietnam, WWII, future soldier, gears of war, halo, marines, rangers, taliban insurgents, even seen a musket. But all of those at least have something in common. Want a hint? It's war, guns, etc. How on earth does someone get diluted enough to think Batman would fit? It may be interesting in a game designed around that sort of thing, but nowhere else. If he is really a big Batman fan, and wants to add his own personal touch; get him a Batman patch for his loadout.

Wayne Corp makes military suits, weapons & vehicles. The (newest) batsuit is advanced infantry armour. The batmobile is literally a light armoured vehicle. The new iteration of batman is very much militarized. No, batman is not a solider and no I would not advise anyone to just show up dressed like him (especially not to your games) but the original question was what do people think of a scenario game where someone dressed up like that could play?

For the record I want to do this, and I would use a MP7, my loophole being that it fires rubber bat-bullets that knock people out for 5 min (conviently just as long as most respawn time)


I also own a lot of realistic loadouts and like to play the part of solider- I just think it would be fun to switch it up and have something different once and awhile

should have been honest from the start,

sure put on the game, just keep in mind
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I would attend this game, and lead the inmates, and prove that you will lose
because
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Lol sorry i was being honest, my friend Ben does want to do this however writing in defense of the idea and looking at the batsuit closer: http://udreplicas.com/templates/udre...ew/TDKR-07.jpg
I really wanna do this now too; however I don't have the moves Ben does (hes a sneaky bastard, but maybe not enough to duck a barrage of bbs) but yah I see how it looks like I was lying
And I haven't lead airsofters into battle yet but maybe after a few more milsim games I'll take you up on that RITZ :)

Honestly the answer is clear. Your friend is not Batman and is going to have to come to terms with that sooner or later. He is one of those guys from Gotham Imposters, they use guns, so he can too! (That and a glider.)

the suit is cool, but looks weird outside of a movie. Adam wore one in an episode of Mythbusters.

You can't wear it in the daytime and not look silly, airsoft or not. Night game, have him go in as a special character, maybe....

You know what fk it lets milsim with batman, as the military discribes batmen.

LMFAO!

Hahaha I guess I could learn how to serve tea under fire :)

Gotham City Imposters like game. BAM! Waddup! Just allowed Batman onto the field.

Why don't you come to a game as one of these?

http://images.buddytv.com/articles/a..._shore_mtv.jpg

I'm sure people will be more than happy and probably won't want to wait to shoot at y... I mean, play airsoft with you.

I don't think Batman would do so hot in a normal Milsim game. However, as many have stated, zombie game or something else would work and probably fit in with the setting. It has to be a game with a lighter attitude such as a skirmish.

What I'd really like to see is this at a World War II style event.

http://dailypop.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/capwwi.jpg

The question is who would be Red Skull?

Exactly.

I already know a player that would jump at being on the Jokers team.

One time a guy came to trek in a kickass (from the movie) jumpsuit. It was neon green and yellow. It was a good day.