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DC_ACU October 9th, 2007 19:50

a stop at a surplus/paintball shop in Stkitts.
 
so i stopped by a place in st catherines that i used to go to for gear..
lets just call it ZMD paintball.
the owner, would NOT shut up about how airsoft is illegal, and hes so against it, but a lot of his customers are in all the time ordering stuff like camo and vests, etc..
so i decide to look around the tiny store...
wouldnt you know it, hes got those semi decent 'airsoft' guns that have tan grips and heat shields (cant remember the company name, been up for almost 39 hours straight now)

so i asked him, why, if airsoft IS illegal, how he would have managed to get the 3 on his wall.
he started getting pretty pissed off, untill i showed some interest in spending some money on some new kneepads.

he went on for a good 20 minutes about 'those airsoft feilds that everyone goes to dont have proper insurance' and so on, he knew this because he had supposedly tried to host airsoft games at his paintball field and his insurance company warned him if he did, ,it would no longer be covered..
and about how airsoft is screwing milsim paintball over because of the simularities in weapons.

he then showed me a catalog of airsoft i guess he had ordered from the US and it got seized and he lost a rather large chunk of cash..

im taking it this is why he doesnt like airsoft, but what i wanted to know, is if any of what he said may possibly be true? because id feel like an idiot if i somewhat tried to stand up for airsoft, not knowing much about how fields are run, etc..

Sergeantmajor October 9th, 2007 19:55

you would be very impressed by stuff i heard in army surplus...ridiculous...

metal airsoft are illegal???

MrEvolution October 9th, 2007 20:01

DO NOT GOTO THIS STORE.
DO NOT GOTO THIS STORE.
DO NOT GOTO THIS STORE.

Ive been there a few times, I bought a mask and some BDU's there (I had not discovered the epic-ness of Jeroons store yet)

The owner is a complete idiot.
What he is selling are Tippman Made guns. White Knight bought TWO XM8's there and they both broke within 24 hours. The first one a gear broke. second one broke in box (motor cover came off).
Most of his clients are those speedballing adoring players that have shitfits when theyre out.

DC_ACU October 9th, 2007 20:02

hey evo.. i know man iv been there many times in the past few years, and every time i stop by i remember why i want to smash the owner with my knucks.. lol
i just needed some new kneepads :P

yanhchan October 9th, 2007 20:05

LOL creative outdoors guy is extremely confused about the current state of airsoft right now. He says "the man" is hassling him and he's afraid to sell...get this...internals...he hids them in cardboard box behind the counter...I LOLed...

Styrak October 9th, 2007 20:06

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Originally Posted by DC_ACU (Post 550833)
he then showed me a catalog of airsoft i guess he had ordered from the US and it got seized and he lost a rather large chunk of cash..

Hmm....I WONDER WHY he thinks it's bad and illegal.

*rolls eyes*

MrEvolution October 9th, 2007 20:07

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Originally Posted by DC_ACU (Post 550848)
i just needed some new kneepads :P

Understandable :)

White_knight October 9th, 2007 20:10

yeah iv been there a bunch of times, hes always on his computer and wont give you the time of day until your ready to buy, then even when you are he still wont look up from that computer. the prices aren't even that good, but alas hes the only one left that i know of close. jeroon is my #1 surplus guy now. i would rather drive the 1 hour and a 1/2 then set foot in that store again, i have never felt so unwelcome then when i was in "ZMD". thats enough of my ramblings now.

Brian McIlmoyle October 9th, 2007 20:26

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Originally Posted by yanhchan (Post 550852)
LOL creative outdoors guy is extremely confused about the current state of airsoft right now. He says "the man" is hassling him and he's afraid to sell...get this...internals...he hids them in cardboard box behind the counter...I LOLed...

Probably because he knows people who have had their livelyhood snuffed out by "the man" when they had their inventory seized, and their store shut down...Can't blame a guy for being cautious.

DC_ACU October 9th, 2007 20:33

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Originally Posted by DC_ACU (Post 550833)
im taking it this is why he doesnt like airsoft,


read what i said before you jump to your attempt at an insult to what i typed.

he admitted to knowing before hand that you cannot import from the US.
which he continued to do at his own risk.

pawscal October 9th, 2007 23:38

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Originally Posted by Yuxi (Post 551046)
And you are what? Crystal clear as to legal status of importing and retailing of airsoft?

If he is afraid to sell them, so what? Does it hurt you? The mans livelihood is on the line. Do you think he rather not sell airsoft products and make more money? The man is clearly afraid to, hence him doing what he did.

He is one of the most honest surplus store owners I have ever met, and though his prices are not always the 'best', he has never tried to mislead me in what he sells, even to the point of discouraging me from buying items he felt were not of good enough quality for me to use.

So what gives you the god damn mother-fucking right to talk down on him like he is a fucking fool you punk ass newb?


WOAH LOL

Ronan October 9th, 2007 23:47

I love you Yuxi. I know you hate me but i still love you very much :)

TokyoSeven October 10th, 2007 03:03

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Originally Posted by DC_ACU (Post 550833)
so
he went on for a good 20 minutes about 'those airsoft feilds that everyone goes to dont have proper insurance' and so on, he knew this because he had supposedly tried to host airsoft games at his paintball field and his insurance company warned him if he did, ,it would no longer be covered..

Well, thats somewhat true, he would be using his field for a purpose other than what was stated for his policy. If he wanted to I suppose he could apply for another policy or apply to extend his current policy in regards to this, but as it stands this is all comerical based insurance and Im not to versed in the area. Im more farmiliar with personal lines.

But well premiums alone for a 5 mil liability would cost an arm and a leg a year, in the area of 2800+ probly.

Phalanix October 10th, 2007 13:27

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Originally Posted by Yuxi (Post 551046)
So what gives you the god damn mother-fucking right to talk down on him like he is a fucking fool you punk ass newb?

Having a bad day, Yuxi?

Mapcinq October 10th, 2007 13:34

Is "newb" actually becoming a hurtful insult? If so, thats pretty fucking sad....

Styrak October 10th, 2007 13:36

Newb IS an insult. Newbie is not.

Skruface October 10th, 2007 13:48

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Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 551353)
Newb IS an insult. Newbie is not.

It depends on the context of what is being said; who's being spoken to, and by whom. If I walk up to a man of color and say "What up, n*gga?", I expect to get my ass kicked. If a man of color says it to another man of color, there is no issue.

Context.

That said, I call a spade a spade (or, as the case may be, I call a newb a newb). If someone doesn't like being called a newb (or moron, idiot, asshat, jerkoff, or other colorful titles) and is insulted by that, they should feel free to speak up. Around here, however, I find most titles are earned.

Personally, I prefer FNG as my title of choice. That or Bloggins.

Aquamarine October 10th, 2007 13:50

Bloggins?

Is that a young blogger?

DuffMan October 10th, 2007 13:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yuxi (Post 551046)
So what gives you the god damn mother-fucking right to talk down on him like he is a fucking fool you punk ass newb?

Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.

Phalanix October 10th, 2007 14:00

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Originally Posted by Duff_Man_in_CADPATs (Post 551381)
Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.

LOL, thanks dude, that just made my day.

AngelusNex October 10th, 2007 14:44

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Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 551353)
Newb IS an insult. Newbie is not.

actually Noob is supposed to be the insult and Newb is supposed to mean new player who admits to being a newbie

yanhchan October 10th, 2007 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yuxi (Post 551046)
And you are what? Crystal clear as to legal status of importing and retailing of airsoft?

If he is afraid to sell them, so what? Does it hurt you? The mans livelihood is on the line. Do you think he rather not sell airsoft products and make more money? The man is clearly afraid to, hence him doing what he did.

He is one of the most honest surplus store owners I have ever met, and though his prices are not always the 'best', he has never tried to mislead me in what he sells, even to the point of discouraging me from buying items he felt were not of good enough quality for me to use.

So what gives you the god damn mother-fucking right to talk down on him like he is a fucking fool you punk ass newb?

Basically all he does is tell me that airsoft is now totally illgeal. He's having trouble getting BBs into the country. I'm not even going to question his honesty, considering that he always insists that everything came in just yesterday/2 hours ago. If you ask my team they can vouch for similar expericnes. He has misled me many times and has said that buying off ASC is super risky and more expensive than buying off him. The fact that he thinks charging $40 for a stock TM spur gear that he got left over from a few years ago baffles me.

Finally if you have issues with me Please do it through PM.

Styrak October 10th, 2007 14:57

Haha, having trouble getting BB's into the country? Lol.
I call shenanigans. Or just pure bullshit.

prosperous October 10th, 2007 15:19

Uh who cares ? why not just see the pimp and he is up with all thing Airsoft and gear for games?

FNG October 10th, 2007 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skruface (Post 551369)
I find most titles are earned.

Personally, I prefer FNG as my title of choice. That or Bloggins.

Hmmm.........go figure. Well if the shoe fits....

Mapcinq October 10th, 2007 15:24

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Originally Posted by prosperous (Post 551436)
Uh who cares ? why not just see the pimp and he is up with all thing Airsoft and gear for games?


This question confuses me.

Cortexburn October 10th, 2007 22:07

He misquoted the length of some flec pants I got off him and he charged me PST. I havn't been back. If people have issues with any merchant...don't give them buisness.

Brit ter October 11th, 2007 17:10

The guy at DMZ only cares about $ and won,t even give you the time of day if there is no ,money in it. I strongly suggest that you stay away from there store. Besides he is way to expensive.


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