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mcguyver December 1st, 2007 15:35

Multi-Cam Comparison
 
I was asked by a member of another forum to do a comparison of Multi-Cam by various manufacturers. It ranges from real Crye to outright clone. Here goes:

Real Crye Multi-Cam:

http://www.jocairsoft.com/forums/gal...dcc065b5d591cf


Huang First Generation Multi-Cam clone:

http://www.jocairsoft.com/forums/gal...dcc065b5d591cf

204 Tactical Multi-Cam clone:

http://www.jocairsoft.com/forums/gal...dcc065b5d591cf

Crye-Licensed fabric by Propper:

http://www.jocairsoft.com/forums/gal...dcc065b5d591cf

Crye Multi-Cam (left) vs. Huang Multi-Cam (right):

http://www.jocairsoft.com/forums/gal...dcc065b5d591cf

Crye Multi-Cam (left) vs. 204 Tactical Multi-Cam (right):

http://www.jocairsoft.com/forums/gal...dcc065b5d591cf

Crye Multi-Cam (left) vs. Crye-Licensed fabric by Propper:

http://www.jocairsoft.com/forums/gal...dcc065b5d591cf

Crye Multi-Cam (left) vs. Huang Blast Belt clone (right)

http://www.jocairsoft.com/forums/gal...dcc065b5d591cf

Crye Multi-Cam (left) vs. HSGI Denali (right):

http://www.jocairsoft.com/forums/gal...dcc065b5d591cf

Sorry, but you'll have to click the links to view.

Syn December 1st, 2007 15:55

Hey thanks for all the photo work mcguyver. I was always wondering about the clone patterns. More brown than I expected in the clone.

Goodl2ussian December 1st, 2007 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syn (Post 585733)
Hey thanks for all the photo work mcguyver. I was always wondering about the clone patterns. More brown than I expected in the clone.

yea noticed that too...and the pattern seems to be "tighter" or more clustered

mcguyver December 1st, 2007 16:07

The older stuff from Huang is really dark in the dark green and brown and really light in the whites. It's not even close, and the camera didn't capture it as much as I'd like. But you do get the idea. The material Crye uses is real thin, with Cordura on the knees, and the Propper is much thicker, but the color/pattern match is pretty much bang-on. The 204 stuff is pretty close, but a little prone to fading.

Naglfar December 1st, 2007 16:27

I like how someone can just say "oh, it's Huang multicam" or "it's a Huang RIS"
and EVERYBODY knows what they are talking about.

We need a Huang forum.

This makes me want to buy multicam, and guess who I am getting it from.

Goodl2ussian December 1st, 2007 16:30

in all technicality its not "huang's" he's just the distributor / promoter (at least to my understanding.

But yea we should have a huang forum called "The Money Void"

mcguyver December 1st, 2007 16:30

Myself, I would buy more real Crye, but I get out-bid on it all the time. I don't like the idea of paying $500 for just the shirt. It will come down as the buzz over that damn movie dies down and demand for Multi-Cam dwindles. I hope the new stuff from Huang is up to the task, but we'll see.

Naglfar December 1st, 2007 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodl2ussian (Post 585749)
But yea we should have a huang forum called "The Money Void"

^^do this

Colin_S December 1st, 2007 16:47

Are the various MC BDUs pictured brand new? If it is can you update how it looks after 3 and 10 washes? If not how many cycles have the BDUs been through? How's the build quality of the replicas?

Heh sorry for playing 20 questions, thanks for the comparison.

mcguyver December 1st, 2007 16:56

The 204 Tactical and Propper have been washed once each. The others are all new. How you wash it and what you use in the process may have an effect as well. I'm pretty certain that with real Crye and Crye-licensed fabrics, fading will not really be an issue. But with clones, who knows?

Griffin December 1st, 2007 16:57

I had to pass on the new stuff Huang is bringing in :( but, I did manage to snag these off Ebay for $150.00.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-OPS-DIRECT-A...QQcmdZViewItem

The seller of these pants I believe got them from here...

http://www.ur-tactical.com/index.php?language=en

Ops pants claim to be made with real CP fabric, I must say the pants I have now are really well made and fit very nice.

Jughead December 1st, 2007 17:17

I just bought some MC from Dropzone here in Edmonton. Excellent material and cut. The pattern is darker and is less acceptable to fade. BUT, you will pay for it.

They are testing a acid dye for Multicam, but dont cross your fingures yet. I can only imagine the dollar price for a acid dye MC BDU.$$$$!

( For those new to ACID DYE, it doesnt fade and usually comes with a life time replacement/repair guarantee from Drop zone.)

Another note that I just found out and I sent my oder in with is:

The RCMP special forces, has made MC their uniform. Kinda cool if you ask me... They just sent in a huge order of 1000 uniforms to made up, and I was able to get into the order. Top and bottom, (with a discount) came to $288.00. Not bad for what I feel is a good quality BDU. But get it when you can, they are going to be short stocked for a while. The US companies need to catch up with the shortage, after a factory fire in mid spring 2007. They got up and running again in September, but are behind. ( obviously )

CDN_Stalker December 1st, 2007 18:25

My experience with multicam is this: I have Drop Zone Recce Smock, OPs pants and shirt. THe material doesn't 'fade', literally it gets hairy which makes it look faded. In other words, tiny fibers from the cotton stand up making it soft, but it also collects light making the pattern seem like it' faded, when it hasn't.

I bought a MC shirt from The Cat last year, and within three to four washes and dries it faded pretty badly. Hence my washing my Crye stuff then putting it in the dryer for only 10mins with other clothes to warm the moisture up, then pull it out and hang dry it.

Dracheous December 1st, 2007 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 585818)
My experience with multicam is this: I have Drop Zone Recce Smock, OPs pants and shirt. THe material doesn't 'fade', literally it gets hairy which makes it look faded. In other words, tiny fibers from the cotton stand up making it soft, but it also collects light making the pattern seem like it' faded, when it hasn't.

I bought a MC shirt from The Cat last year, and within three to four washes and dries it faded pretty badly. Hence my washing my Crye stuff then putting it in the dryer for only 10mins with other clothes to warm the moisture up, then pull it out and hang dry it.

Strange, thats exactly what coveralls that have been treated with flame retardant will do, when you dry them with those fabric softener sheets in the machine.

Colin_S December 1st, 2007 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver (Post 585769)
The 204 Tactical and Propper have been washed once each. The others are all new. How you wash it and what you use in the process may have an effect as well. I'm pretty certain that with real Crye and Crye-licensed fabrics, fading will not really be an issue. But with clones, who knows?

Yes I am aware how you wash it can affect the colouring but the replica MC fades much faster. At least with the first set that I got, it was almost white within 5 washes. After which I picked up a set of Daves Surplus custom cut MC (which is made with real material, used for over a year) and like what CDN_Stalker said it hasn't really faded. I find that the edges are a bit softer but it still pretty vibrant.

Recently picked up a set of Propper MC but I've only washed it once so I can't confirm if that happens with the Propper MC too.

Syn December 1st, 2007 21:15

What about all those tips like washing in cold water, washing with a little vinegar, washing your clothes inside out, mild hand washing clothes, etc. You guys find any of that works to prevent fading for MC?

leblanc74 December 1st, 2007 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naglfar (Post 585746)
I like how someone can just say "oh, it's Huang multicam" or "it's a Huang RIS"
and EVERYBODY knows what they are talking about.

We need a Huang forum.

This makes me want to buy multicam, and guess who I am getting it from.

and after chatting with the guy and visiting dragonsoft, you're down 1300$ shorter in change from your wallet.... :confused:

leblanc74 December 1st, 2007 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver (Post 585750)
Myself, I would buy more real Crye, but I get out-bid on it all the time. I don't like the idea of paying $500 for just the shirt. It will come down as the buzz over that damn movie dies down and demand for Multi-Cam dwindles. I hope the new stuff from Huang is up to the task, but we'll see.

I'll let you know, apparently my order was sent a few days ago...right Huang?....I know you're there :D

mcguyver December 1st, 2007 22:31

I have 2 sets on order as well. So, then I can see all five sets side-by-side.

leblanc74 December 1st, 2007 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver (Post 585933)
I have 2 sets on order as well. So, then I can see all five sets side-by-side.



2 SETs????.....planning on eating during the christmas holidays are we?....LOL...I see that Huang has your wallet also.....LOL...

mcguyver December 1st, 2007 23:18

I ordered 2 because the sizing was a little ambiguous and I'm borderline on sizing. So 1 set will fit, the other one won't and I'll sell it to someone.

I'm not worried about eating at Christmas. I'm at the in-laws this year (very Polish), so one thing there's lots of is food.

leblanc74 December 1st, 2007 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver (Post 585956)
I ordered 2 because the sizing was a little ambiguous and I'm borderline on sizing. So 1 set will fit, the other one won't and I'll sell it to someone.

I'm not worried about eating at Christmas. I'm at the in-laws this year (very Polish), so one thing there's lots of is food.

koubasa's.......MMMMmmmm

no seriously, I was thinking on the same on the sizing issue...all well if my medium doesn't fit, I will have to get a large one at regular price, or hopefully huang will get me a discount :) ....

huang December 2nd, 2007 01:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by leblanc74 (Post 585968)
koubasa's.......MMMMmmmm

no seriously, I was thinking on the same on the sizing issue...all well if my medium doesn't fit, I will have to get a large one at regular price, or hopefully huang will get me a discount :) ....

No worry. I will bring a batch into canada after the pre-orders are shipped. If it doesn't fit at all, ship to toronto to exchange. ONLY brand new item wihch is still in its package can be exchanged.


I talked to the allwin, they just don't want to build the combat set with real CP fabric at all. Another manufacturer makes custom combat pants using CP multicam fabric, by pre-order only. It takes 3 weeks to build a combat pants that fits your measurements. Very expensive, CAD240 shipped, but it is genuine multicam fabric and custom made to fit.

Griffin December 2nd, 2007 02:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by huang (Post 586002)
No worry. I will bring a batch into canada after the pre-orders are shipped. If it doesn't fit at all, ship to toronto to exchange. ONLY brand new item wihch is still in its package can be exchanged.


I talked to the allwin, they just don't want to build the combat set with real CP fabric at all. Another manufacturer makes custom combat pants using CP multicam fabric, by pre-order only. It takes 3 weeks to build a combat pants that fits your measurements. Very expensive, CAD240 shipped, but it is genuine multicam fabric and custom made to fit.

Would those be the same pants being sold on Ebaybanned?

huang December 2nd, 2007 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin (Post 586022)
Would those be the same pants being sold on Ebaybanned?

YES.It is the same manufacturer who builds the blast belt.

eihdo December 2nd, 2007 09:59

but ebaybanned selling an original multicam fabric

huang December 2nd, 2007 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by eihdo (Post 586120)
but ebaybanned selling an original multicam fabric

Another manufacturer makes custom combat pants using CP multicam fabric, by pre-order only. It takes 3 weeks to build a combat pants that fits your measurements. Very expensive, CAD240 shipped, but it is genuine multicam fabric and custom made to fit.

leblanc74 December 3rd, 2007 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by huang (Post 586121)
Another manufacturer makes custom combat pants using CP multicam fabric, by pre-order only. It takes 3 weeks to build a combat pants that fits your measurements. Very expensive, CAD240 shipped, but it is genuine multicam fabric and custom made to fit.

but we already ordered the combat set from you....however, If I am not happy with the set that I'm being shipped, I am willing to pay 240$ for the set "only if it is genuine fabric and looks identical as crye"...

mcguyver December 3rd, 2007 14:04

You can always buy real Crye, but open your wallet. Even on e-bay, expect to pay many hundreds per piece, used. Their BDUs can be had for $200ish per piece, but the combat stuff is way more.

But short of that, a quality clone, even if the color and pattern are a bit off, at $140 is still a good deal. I guess I'll see when it gets here.

Sergeantmajor December 3rd, 2007 14:56

you guys know if the 4.1 multicam is good?

any of you ever tried Tru-spec
?
http://www.atlanco.com/images/TS01_r1_c4.jpg

SINN December 3rd, 2007 15:14

I think multicam has officially surpased CADPAT for going in cirlces again and again..lol

Brian McIlmoyle December 3rd, 2007 17:03

My head is Spinning
 
Hey I have to admit I like Multicam.. it's so retro modern...in an updated classic kind of way.

Although really its so.. last fall ... I think this is a style that has legs.. and will become an enduring staple of the well dressed psudo-operator fantasy soldier..... Certainly not approaching the universality of Olive Drab... or even Tiger Stripe... but yet persistant...

I fully expect that even in my dotage.. when I can hold my head up proudly and finally join the ranks of the eccentric.. old man's fraturnity.. I will be wearing my DZ multicam smock (thouroughly lined with tin foil to resist cosmic rays, which are going to be a bugger in the future ) while I hunt for treasures.. in the bottom of dumpsters.

oicurpn December 3rd, 2007 17:19

tru-spec
 
I have tru-spec 50/50 and its fantastic very durable and i have washed it a couple times now with no probs, its not 100% crye multicam but close enough
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sergeantmajor (Post 586979)
you guys know if the 4.1 multicam is good?

any of you ever tried Tru-spec
?
http://www.atlanco.com/images/TS01_r1_c4.jpg


Jughead December 3rd, 2007 18:47

For the two gents that were speaking of how their BDUs were not faded but had fabric fibers making it look like they were.

I was Xmas shopping with the girlfriend and she bought this clothes shaver unit. It shaves off the loose fibers and makes the material look newish again.

For those interested: We got it at Linens and things. Might save you a few bucks and also make your BDUs last a lil longer.

I havnt tried it out, but it looks like it might help.

leblanc74 December 3rd, 2007 22:12

I have received the blast belt today, and it is perfect, very sturdy and the pattern looks like the real stuff....no time for pictures only this weekend if time permits. but it is worth it...thanks Huang, and Huang I hope that the Combat set is the same color and quality as the blast belt.....if not what can I do to make it happen, more money, you got it, I will pay for good quality....

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=46300

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8414/loadoutjd8.jpg

Ronan December 3rd, 2007 22:24

leblanc how about some pics of your ptw's and gears in the media section?

leblanc74 December 3rd, 2007 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 587347)
leblanc how about some pics of your ptw's and gears in the media section?

will do once I receive, the combat set...for the PTW I only have one up to now, but I am having multiple upper receiver configuration assemblies being done for my lower M4A1 Max receiver, so I could swap the upper receiver to the one I feel like shooting that day...got most of the part, but still missing the upper receiver, outer/inner barrel and hopup unit, I think that is all, but anyways I already got a few handguards ready to be installed...

huang December 3rd, 2007 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by leblanc74 (Post 587340)
I have received the blast belt today, and it is perfect, very sturdy and the pattern looks like the real stuff....no time for pictures only this weekend if time permits. but it is worth it...thanks Huang, and Huang I hope that the Combat set is the same color and quality as the blast belt.....if not what can I do to make it happen, more money, you got it, I will pay for good quality....

You parcles only took 3 days after they were shipped. Incredible.That's really a record for CanadaPost(EMS).

leblanc74 December 3rd, 2007 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by huang (Post 587371)
You parcles only took 3 days after they were shipped. Incredible.That's really a record for CanadaPost(EMS).



I feel special.....Also, I got both parcels.... :D :D :D

and Huang I hope that the Combat set is the same color and quality as the blast belt.....if not what can I do to make it happen, more money, you got it...you know that I willing pay for good quality....

Mikeman_4_ever December 5th, 2007 15:29

someone in the first page or so that only well connected US military were able to order Crye...sorry, couldn't read all pages as i'm at work, but I'm on their main page right now and it has ordering procedures and prices...what gives?

mcguyver December 5th, 2007 16:18

Give it a try. But don't be hopeful that it actually works.


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