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spacebob July 22nd, 2009 21:16

Mauvaise publicite pour la communautee
 
Encore une fois, de jeunes colons on utilise des fusil CanadianTire pour faire les cons. Et cette fois-ci sa ce retrouve Ã* la télévision de Radio-Canada au Telejournal de 18h.

http://www.radio-canada.ca/audio-vid...0907221800.asx

C'est dans la 2eme partie Ã* 2min30 environ.

pusangani July 22nd, 2009 21:32

Stupid little fucking monkeys

Jimski July 22nd, 2009 21:37

OSEF

Rock 'N' Roll Outlaw July 22nd, 2009 21:43

Que?

kamikaze July 22nd, 2009 21:50

Dommage et ca n'iras pas en s'améliorant !!

surebet July 23rd, 2009 00:18

Wow...

''À 75 pieds sur le petit doigt, ça te casse le petit doigt"
Joël Mercier, copropriétaire, Saguenay Paintball Karting

"At 75 feet on the pinky finger, it will break your pinky finger"
Joël Mercier, co-owner, Saguenay Paintball Karting

Way to stab fellow shooting sport hobbyists is the fucking back, nice way to kill of the local community and protect the paintball market.

EDIT: for those looking for the blurb, it's in the second part, around 2:50

oOMuDOo July 23rd, 2009 02:11

Very sensationnaliste reporting...
Im very displeased. I dont know what to say more... Parents.. kids....

Jimski July 23rd, 2009 08:19

journalists also.

Conker July 23rd, 2009 08:31

Encore, la même chose que les XX autres reportages... Sauf que lÃ*, le gars du SPK me déçois pas mal. Ça aurait été une bonne occasion de montrer les vraies choses...

Sim123456 July 23rd, 2009 09:38

Je comprendrais jamais pourquoi rien n'est dit sur les fusil Ã* plombs, acheter au Canadian tire, qui peuvent tirer de la .22 Ã* 495fps... si un jeune de 13 ans peut se procurer un clearsoft de 375fps avec de la .12g, c'est bien moins dangereux qu'une carabine Ã* plomb... c'est de la désinformations pures et simples. Et si c'est 18ans et +, c'est les parents qu'il faut accuser car ce sont eux les responsables des actes de leurs enfants.

Gridlock July 23rd, 2009 09:53

A shame... someone should get ASC in some papers. Show the rest of the country how a responsible, organized community can keep this sport safe, as opposed to just stories about kids getting shot or putting their eyes out or something.

scottyfox July 23rd, 2009 10:18

ASC Public Affairs officer?
Anyone in that field?

MrBond July 23rd, 2009 11:50

I don't know why every other country in the world has a Federal Airsoft Association but we don't ! Charge like 5-10$ for every member and all the money goes to one lawyer who takes care of any public diffamation or cases against it's members. After a couple of years, you bet that lawyer will become a well known expert in the field and then finally we'd have someone with power and backing to get some decent airsoft laws in this stupid country of ours... + it would put pressure on the media to get their facts right before making a piece...

/end rant

L473ncy July 23rd, 2009 13:00

Ahhh.... stupid newbies.

There's too much anti-gun sentiment in Canada that nothing will ever change. The soccer mom lobby is too large and powerful. All it takes is one lady with nothing better to do with their time between driving their kids to and from soccer. Whereas most of us either have jobs or are university students and don't have enough time to fight against someone who has all the time in the world.

MrBond July 23rd, 2009 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by L473ncy (Post 1030890)
Ahhh.... stupid newbies.

There's too much anti-gun sentiment in Canada that nothing will ever change. The soccer mom lobby is too large and powerful. All it takes is one lady with nothing better to do with their time between driving their kids to and from soccer. Whereas most of us either have jobs or are university students and don't have enough time to fight against someone who has all the time in the world.

Some people are content in life by just rolling over and getting butt raped, others try to change things and find solutions. Now a 19 yo kid calling people "stupid newbies" just shows why the whole thing is in the state that it is today. Stay in school, you might someday learn that the world might be a bit more complicated than you think...

L473ncy July 23rd, 2009 14:36

I'm not trying to say don't do it (nor was I trying to flame people coming up with that idea). Good on you if you actually go through with it but you should heed the advice given by "senior" members of the community (that's not me since I'm still pretty young).

I shouldn't have to explain myself but for me there is a reason why I'm content with the situation in Canada right now. You should educate yourself on others before you who have made petitions, tried to form a lobby group, tried to get the media on "our side" etc.

MrBond July 23rd, 2009 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by L473ncy (Post 1030958)
I'm not trying to say don't do it (nor was I trying to flame people coming up with that idea). Good on you if you actually go through with it but you should heed the advice given by "senior" members of the community (that's not me since I'm still pretty young).

I shouldn't have to explain myself but for me there is a reason why I'm content with the situation in Canada right now. You should educate yourself on others before you who have made petitions, tried to form a lobby group, tried to get the media on "our side" etc.

What I was saying wasn't a futur project of mine or anything like that. I was just stating that everywhere else in the world have done something about it but here there's nothing like a federal association. You might be content with how it is now, but like the original subject of this thread is pointing out, the situation we're used to is degrading nowadays and the futur is starting to look grim in Quebec, the province wich has been hit the hardest by the soccer moms...

For exemple, there's a law in Ireland (I think it's Ireland) that just passed that makes them worst off than we are here at the moment and might end up meaning a total ban of airsoft. Now instead of the players just bitching about it and die off, they already have a country-wide association with lawyers that will make an appeal to the goverment on their behalf. I might not work out in the end, but at least it something.

Btw my join date might be recent, but my friends are the "senior" members of the community in Quebec, playing airsoft from way back when in was created, and we often have these discussions. The only reason there's nothing like that in Canada today is that nobody wants to stick their neck out and do it... so far...

And all the hippy shit petitions, spokepersons and such ain't worth crap, on that I agree with you. ;)

L473ncy July 23rd, 2009 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by tattoodan (Post 1030994)
And all the hippy shit petitions, spokepersons and such ain't worth crap, on that I agree with you. ;)

Yeah sorry I thought that you were alluding to that happening. It's easier to make a "feel good" petition that fails horribly and goes into the black hole of red tape and gets thrown into the trash bin than actually "acting" and doing something, you need a lot of work to start a lobby or association and that's the key. I would happily join an association that lobbied for airsoft players interests but at the same time I would not want it to turn into some crappily run association like most do with no clear path to the goal in mind other than "our goal is this" not "how do we get to our goal".

EDIT: How about we call a truce and leave the arguing. I think we're arguing two sides of the same coin as the saying goes.

MrBond July 23rd, 2009 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by L473ncy (Post 1031001)
EDIT: How about we call a truce and leave the arguing. I think we're arguing two sides of the same coin as the saying goes.

Eh eh that happens alot on forums... :D

MrBond July 24th, 2009 11:13

Just when I was talking about it, here it is in the news: http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/8228

Conker July 24th, 2009 11:28

Ce matin, sur le réseau Astral Média j'ai entendu un joueur du Saguenay (nom & pseudo inconnus) expliquer les faits. C'était aux nouvelles de 7h ce matin, et ça accompagnait la nouvelle citée plus haut. (je crois que le poste était Rock Détente, mais je ne suis pas sûr, c'était dans un autobus...)

En gros, le joueur expliquait que comme dans n'importe quel sport, c'est sécuritaire et le fun tant que tous sont conscients des risques et respectent les règles de sécurité. Comme au paintball, certains peuvent l'utiliser Ã* mauvais escient mais lorsque des gens matures qui s'en servent dans le contexte sportif encadré, c'est sécuritaire...

Ce n'était pas ses mots exactements, mais cela résume son contenu. L'extrait n'avait pas l'air trop remonté non plus, et ça faisait bien du sens.

Rock Détente au Saguenay c'est pas Énergie le midi Ã* Montréal, mais Ã* mon avis cela a bien paru et oui, je crois que des interventions similaires, bien informées, nous rendraient service. Je sais, la plupart préfèrent le statut quo, et je ne veut pas repartir le même thread qu'il y a aux 3 mois...

En bref, je félicite l'initiative de ce joueur qui a appelé.

MrBond July 24th, 2009 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comanche (Post 1031566)
Ce matin, sur le réseau Astral Média j'ai entendu un joueur du Saguenay (nom & pseudo inconnus) expliquer les faits. C'était aux nouvelles de 7h ce matin, et ça accompagnait la nouvelle citée plus haut. (je crois que le poste était Rock Détente, mais je ne suis pas sûr, c'était dans un autobus...)

En gros, le joueur expliquait que comme dans n'importe quel sport, c'est sécuritaire et le fun tant que tous sont conscients des risques et respectent les règles de sécurité. Comme au paintball, certains peuvent l'utiliser Ã* mauvais escient mais lorsque des gens matures qui s'en servent dans le contexte sportif encadré, c'est sécuritaire...

Ce n'était pas ses mots exactements, mais cela résume son contenu. L'extrait n'avait pas l'air trop remonté non plus, et ça faisait bien du sens.

Rock Détente au Saguenay c'est pas Énergie le midi Ã* Montréal, mais Ã* mon avis cela a bien paru et oui, je crois que des interventions similaires, bien informées, nous rendraient service. Je sais, la plupart préfèrent le statut quo, et je ne veut pas repartir le même thread qu'il y a aux 3 mois...

En bref, je félicite l'initiative de ce joueur qui a appelé.

En effet, c'est toujours l'fun d'entendre parler du positif.

Ça me fait toujours rire quand ça argumente sur la sécurité du airsoft. Il serait très drôle un moment donné que quelqu'un compare les statistiques sur les blessures au airsoft et celles de, disons, le vélo de montagne, le skateboard, le hockey, etc... on s'entend qu'Ã* part perdre un oeil (qui serait obligatoirement dû au manque de la personne Ã* suivre les consignes de sécurité) les blessures au airsoft sont quasiment inexistentes...

surebet July 24th, 2009 12:48

Bah, c'est a peu près le même que le paintball, les pires blessures que j'ai vu sont en lien avec des chevilles versées et trucs du genre.

Il y a un mod ici qui s'est fêlé quelques côtes en tombant dans un trou d'échelle une fois, ça doit être le pire.

Capt.Flan July 24th, 2009 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by surebet (Post 1030635)
Wow...

''À 75 pieds sur le petit doigt, ça te casse le petit doigt"
Joël Mercier, copropriétaire, Saguenay Paintball Karting

"At 75 feet on the pinky finger, it will break your pinky finger"
Joël Mercier, co-owner, Saguenay Paintball Karting

Way to stab fellow shooting sport hobbyists is the fucking back, nice way to kill of the local community and protect the paintball market.

EDIT: for those looking for the blurb, it's in the second part, around 2:50

+1

La fin approche... :(

Doombringer July 25th, 2009 16:28

Serieusement, c'est de la négligence parentale... Acheter un airsoft Ã* des enfants de 10 ans... Est-ce que les parents achetent des cigarettes et du fort Ã* leurs enfants ? Si oui... heh...

Yann Aka Harry August 5th, 2009 10:55

c nimporte quoi
 
c nimporte quoi cet histoire la le paintball est bcp plus dangereux ke le airsoft pi stafair la de 75 pied et sa te casse le petit doigt ... mais bon jai une question commen jpeux fair pour me fair listé ( vérification d age ) et ou jpeux fair sa !???

surebet August 5th, 2009 11:23

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/forumdisplay.php?f=21

Cherche le post "How to get age verified/comment se faire vérifier"

mousqueterre August 19th, 2009 17:41

Media
 
La journee ou il n y auras plus de redacteur en chef bien payer par L'Establishment, les nouvelles vont etre bien differente. Ils prennent ce qui est bon et payant pour eux, ils ont des listes et airsoft milsim fusil chasseur.... sa c est en tete de liste. Les petites filles qui ce font violer dans les clubs de dance a 10 sa c est en bas de la liste juste a pres les politicien qui volent de l argent et qui ne font pas de prison :))))))))

En realiter ils n ont tellement pas d argument qu ils cherchent l opignion publique pour ce justifier, juste a voir la bonne entente qui il y a dans les parties entre les gars et la gestion du site pour comprendre qu ils ce cale eux meme :))))

Un homme libre qui n as rien a ce reprocher c est plus fort que tous !!!!!

La constution nous protege!!!!!!!!

Une opignion parmis tant d autre.............

The day or there will more editors to pay by the Establishment, the news will be very different. They take what is good and paying for them, they have lists and milsim airsoft gun hunter .... c is the head of the list. Girls who are raped in this club dance a 10 sa c is at the bottom of the list just near the politician who steal the money and who are not in prison :))))))))

In reality they have no argument so that they seek the public opignion justification for this, just see the good agreement that there is in the part between the guys and the site management to understand that they hold them the same:)) ))

A free man who has nothing as this reproach c is stronger than all !!!!!

The Constitutive protects us !!!!!!!!

A opignion among many others .............

TokyoSeven August 19th, 2009 22:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by tattoodan (Post 1031554)
Just when I was talking about it, here it is in the news: http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/8228

I find it weird that another organization has popped up, I thought UKARA had everything covered on that end.

.JET August 19th, 2009 22:58

We should stop saying "what if" and "it'd be nice if" and just do it already. One step at a time.

I like the idea of getting together a small group of people (that would eventually grow) and gather enough people to then gather enough money to pay a lawyer that would stand up for us. If enough people care, the country will have no choice but to realize that in terms of security, airsoft = paintball.

It shouldn't take that much. I'm sure a newer lawyer who has balls would do it. It'd be a great way to make a name for themselves. Win-win tbh.

Who wants to do it? I'm down to be apart of it. ACA (Association of Canadian Airsoft) sounds pretty legit. ;P

surebet August 19th, 2009 23:17

There have been, and still are, lobbies that work in our favor.

Some are explained in the FAQs.


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