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xsnipes April 6th, 2008 00:08

Echo 1 m16a4
 
I got this gun for 230 off my buddy, I don't like the m16 because of its length but I'm not going to refuse 230. It is my first aeg so I don't know how it compares to others .

-Velocity is supposed to be around 360 f/s but does not Peirce the bottom of a soda can
-The battery is a 8.4 volt 1500 mAh large type Ni-Cad battery
-It comes very close to 3 feet long (which could be a bonus for some people)
-close to 7 pounds
-good ole' 350 round mis-feeding hi cap
-metal bushings and spring guide
-full metal ris
-bulky plastic stock with metal but plate
-version two mechbox
-brass 6.08 inner barrel
-bright orange tip (if from the states)

the sights on this gun are similar to the other colt rifles (Garand, m14, M4) three point front sight, and a adjustable peep on the rear sight. There is a minor problem on the rear sight, it seems to be spring loaded and will move if forced even a little bit, this won't matter if you use the tracer technique.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...x/PICT0831.jpg
I didn't even get the whole gun it the picture its so long

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...x/PICT0832.jpg
Break down of the gun, CAMMANDO logo?

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...x/PICT0833.jpg
Hop up exposed by charging handle

accuracy on this gun was not to impress but is well off and is practical for hitting a man sized target upwards of a 150 feet.

The fore grip is solid, but like all Armalites it will become loose and have to be tightened by the three allan bolts under the fore-grip, which I am told strip easily. The wobble on my gun doesn't seem to be produced by the outer barrel vice or clamp (don't know whats its called), but the piece behind it that is most visible, which doesn't seem very firmly mounted to the gun. <-- I need help with that

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...x/PICT0839.jpg

Overall I like the feel and the look of this gun, it has a very convincing low pitched AEG sound. What bothers me is the one piecer, and the length a bit. The selector switch has a very positive click when changing fire modes The mag fits the the mag-well firmly and locks into place easily. The mag release is in a nice place I find. In my opinion, the m16 is a classic good-looking rifle.

xsnipes April 6th, 2008 00:10

oops those pictures a pretty big, don't know if that bothers anybody

Skladfin April 6th, 2008 00:14

full metal RIS?

what?

KNIVEZS April 6th, 2008 00:14

the review wasn't that bad, so good job

caboose36 April 6th, 2008 00:16

Nice Review!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Skladfin (Post 687234)
full metal RIS?

what?


I think he means the RIS rail under the carrying handle.

Skladfin April 6th, 2008 00:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by caboose36 (Post 687237)
Nice Review!





I think he means the RIS rail under the carrying handle.

I'm sorry, I never knew that was called a RIS, all this time I've been calling it a flat top rail.

is it really metal? if it has a plastic body, then shouldn't that be plastic as well?

Okay review, could have had more content in it.

Lakonian April 6th, 2008 00:28

This is an A3.

Nice write-up :)

caboose36 April 6th, 2008 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skladfin (Post 687238)
I'm sorry, I never knew that was called a RIS, all this time I've been calling it a flat top rail.

is it really metal? if it has a plastic body, then shouldn't that be plastic as well?

I guess some people call it differnt names, both work. :D On my TM M4 Plastic body it has the rail which is metal. There is a screw that keeps the rail on the receiver, which is screwed into a nut or the big hunk of metal which is the whole treaded piece for the barrel nut, on the front end of the gun. Now, The threaded piece slides inside of the upper receiver, and gets held there by two screws that are located in the area that are circled in red. Now, on the top part of that there should be a little female threaded area, thats what the screw screws into to hold the rail on the receiver.

If that doesnt make sence, I guess you would have to take off the rail too see what I mean. :p Heres a Link : http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...e36/234i88.jpg You can't see the screws in the pic but there in that area. Im not trying to sound like a smart @ss, but just trying to explane. :rolleyes:

Hope That clears things up!

Caboose

xsnipes April 6th, 2008 01:26

The rail from what I can tell is metal the body is plastic, I guess full metal ris rail was a bad way to put it.

xsnipes April 6th, 2008 01:29

jing gong doesn't come with metal bushing and spring guide right?

caboose36 April 6th, 2008 01:31

You got it right bud, I was explaneing how the RIS rail attached to the body for Skladfin.

Caboose

caboose36 April 6th, 2008 01:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsnipes (Post 687276)
jing gong doesn't come with metal bushing and spring guide right?


The bushing are nilon/plastic, But the spring guide is metal.

Caboose

Skladfin April 6th, 2008 01:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by caboose36 (Post 687252)
I guess some people call it differnt names, both work. :D On my TM M4 Plastic body it has the rail which is metal. There is a screw that keeps the rail on the receiver, which is screwed into a nut or the big hunk of metal which is the whole treaded piece for the barrel nut, on the front end of the gun. Now, The threaded piece slides inside of the upper receiver, and gets held there by two screws that are located in the area that are circled in red. Now, on the top part of that there should be a little female threaded area, thats what the screw screws into to hold the rail on the receiver.

If that doesnt make sence, I guess you would have to take off the rail too see what I mean. :p Heres a Link : http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...e36/234i88.jpg You can't see the screws in the pic but there in that area. Im not trying to sound like a smart @ss, but just trying to explane. :rolleyes:

Hope That clears things up!

Caboose

uhh..

ya..

okay...

I wouldn't know, cause you know, I've bought a TM M4 two years ago and disassembled the eff of it, upgraded the internals myself. Then put a metal body, RAS, Crane stock. Ya, I would have never guessed, , thanks for explaining all those wonderful painfully obvious facts to me.. I appreciate it.

By the way, it's spelled "explain", not "explane".

Don't worry, you were never a smartass in my mind.

caboose36 April 6th, 2008 01:39

Thanks for correcting me. I feel soo stupid now, but I guess being half asleep doesnt help my spelling and typing at all, now does it? Im not calling you stupid or anything either, just was trying to make myself useful for once. Well 3 days staying up past 12:00am isnt good for me, Im off now.

Caboose

Skladfin April 6th, 2008 01:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by caboose36 (Post 687283)
Thanks for correcting me. I feel soo stupid, but I guess being half asleep doesnt help my spelling and typing at all, now does it?

I just love it when people give random excuses...

especially the "oh I was awake for so long" excuse.

I really wouldn't know, I can't see you right now, go figure.


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