Debating between M4 Variant or HK family (mainly G36) and others

[Gadoury]

Hey! Multipleparadox, your in the same shoes i was 3 weeks ago.

I went to my local airsoft shop to see their M4 and saw the SRC hk 416 VIII pro ( full metal AEG ). When the guy put this beast in my hands, i knew this was the gun for me.

That thing is amazing. Less common then M4, with all those picatinny rail theres a lot to be done, all spare parts easilly available, it's a good choice. I don't know what ninja en short is trying to say, the src hk416 is back wired. ( it's a lot better this way i have to agree ) but i've heard of front wired hk 416, but definatively not the pro version from src.

The only downside i could see ( it wasn't not for me ) is the weight. That beast is heavy.

a lot more then a m4.

Also, if you read around like me, you'll see some comments that they are a pain to fieldstrip ( open and get to the gearbox ) but i was surprise how easy it was... take about 5 minutes and the gear box is open... ( and i'm new to this sport )

the quality is amazing, the picatiny rail are not moulded but CNC machined!

I think for the price... it's an amazing piece, but i'm a noob! but yeah, my heart started to pump harder when i got this in my hands.

Good luck!

[Wrath144]

Just get a G3 and be happy.

[coach]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

M4!
There's no such thing as tactical, efficient, or ergonomic when your talking about G36 mags.
Besides, V2 mechboxes are way easier to work on

x2. no debate here.

also an AR variant is one of the better choices for a first gun as parts are more widely available.

mag management for a first gun/first time airsoft user is going to be much easier too.

[Donster]

If you want a G36 series gun, get a CA. They are the best, bar none. If you want a G3 style gun, I would also give the nod to CA.

As for an M4 of H&K416, get a VFC. They are arguably the best.

[MultipleParadox]

Great info here

Now the killer question is, which brand should I actually consider? CA seems like it's the best in term of external but read a lot of report saying the internals are quite so so...

I haven't seen much report/review about SRC/SRC Pro, KWA, KJW etc...


Any inputs?

[Gadoury]

I think the country of origin is a good indicator of the quality... Japanese #1, Taiwanese #2 and China #3...

[Qlong]

Originally Posted by Styrak

The only real differences between an AR and an HK416 are in real steel.

Wrong.

If you do purchase a 416 of any brand, and decide you want to use PMAGs, Star green label PMags will not fit as all 416s have the longer flared magwell compared to a standard armalite. They will need a mod to remove the top front ridge of the mag.

Magpul PTS PMAGs fits no problem.

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by Qlong

Wrong.

If you do purchase a 416 of any brand, and decide you want to use PMAGs, Star green label PMags will not fit as all 416s have the longer flared magwell compared to a standard armalite. They will need a mod to remove the top front ridge of the mag.

Magpul PTS PMAGs fits no problem.

A very small issue.
So my point still stands.

[MultipleParadox]

Thanks for the info
I'll be looking for reviews of the different brands for both models and see what comes up as a good deal in the classifieds then

Edit: also, silly question but, wth is a PMAG as opposed to a "regular" mag if I say so? O.o

MP

[Donster]

Originally Posted by MultipleParadox

Great info here

Now the killer question is, which brand should I actually consider? CA seems like it's the best in term of external but read a lot of report saying the internals are quite so so...

I haven't seen much report/review about SRC/SRC Pro, KWA, KJW etc...


Any inputs?

CA for G36, VFC for M4

[Qlong]

As Donster said, the Classic Army G36 is a rock solid gun externally, Glass reinforced Nylon body compared to ABS or Nylon reinforced of other makes, where flex is more common. I can't speak for the internals as I had not put enough rounds into mine before I sold it.

Do some research on SRC, they also make a glass/nylon composite body for their line of G36s.

KWA uses proprietary parts, just like their 2gx v2 gearboxes.

Originally Posted by MultipleParadox

Edit: also, silly question but, wth is a PMAG as opposed to a "regular" mag if I say so? O.o
MP

I'm sure you've probably seem them around, they are polymer magazines made by Magpul.

Originally Posted by Styrak

A very small issue.
So my point still stands.

Not quite, each mag needs to be either filed down or Dremelled. If a new player decides this issue is minor and buys a box of Greenlabel mags, has little experience they can easily over sand the shell, not to mention the diminished resale value.

Try not to give newer players asking for advice, bad advice, then trying to justify it by stating it is just a "small issue".

Why buy something that you will need modding if there are other products that do not.

[Ninja_En_Short]

Plus Pmags don't make as much issue as a regular Stanag mag

[Eeyore]

Originally Posted by Ninja_En_Short

Plus Pmags don't make as much issue as a regular Stanag mag

But they cost 3x as much.

[Ninja_En_Short]

Dumb look on your dead face or empty wallet in your very alive ass pocket.
World is about priorities

[Eeyore]

Originally Posted by Ninja_En_Short

Dumb look on your dead face or empty wallet in your very alive ass pocket.
World is about priorities

Real world yes. Airsoft world...not so much.