Dart wants a new toy.

[shiftsup]

Originally Posted by Frozen Tex

+1 to the Tommy gun; I read an article in a police gun magazine a few years ago that said a guy came to a SWAT training course from a small southern US sheriff's dept. and he brought a Tommy gun, and claimed to use it on duty.

You mean this guy?



Here is pic of my Viva MK2S Sten and Cyma Thompson M1A1 (sorry no rails or optics)



And The VFC B.A.R



Adamlxlx with his:



Since Evo posted I will throw in my avatar too.

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by Dart

firstly I have considered the Thompson and ended up holding one at a game a few times, I find them uncomfortable for some reason. They are not a very natural pointer. Mind you I bet it would just take some time to get used to it.

Not a natural pointer?!
Haha, when you shoulder the gun, the sights come up to eye level and align just right.

[shiftsup]

Originally Posted by Styrak

Not a natural pointer?!
Haha, when you shoulder the gun, the sights come up to eye level and align just right.

Yeah I didn't get that either. I have had a number of people unfamiliar with the Thompson handle mine. Quite a number of them have said the Thompson has the best sights for airsoft engagements.

Dart, give the Thompson another look.

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by shiftsup

Yeah I didn't get that either. I have had a number of people unfamiliar with the Thompson handle mine. Quite a number of them have said the Thompson has the best sights for airsoft engagements.

Yeah, especially with goggles/masks.

[Dart]

It just felt strange to me. Mind you come to think of it... I had been playing the day with a p90 so having my arms stretched out like that probably threw me off. I will take a peek at my buddies thompson out here.


Anyone know if the Chicago typewriter ever actually entered conflict? If so it would probably be limited to early ww2... hmm



and to the person that said put a rail on a WW2 era gun, you sir... are the worst kind of human.

[shiftsup]

I have books with period pics of US soldiers with Chicago Typewriters at St Mere Eglise. The pics are all of officers though. It's safe to say that the Chicago Typewriter style M1928 was used in limited numbers Post Normandy.

It was more common with the USMC throughout the Pacific war.


The Cyma Chicago Typewriter isn't remotely close to being correct visually though..

[Dart]

Hmm. Just got my price quotes back and the sten is less than half of the ppsh and m60 how ever I am iffy on the stens internals.

You never did answer if I can put a re steel handle on the m60... Hmmmmmm what to do what to do.

[grantmac]

I have to throw out that an SVD would also make for a very wide range of conflicts. Everything from VN to current.

Of course if your going to get one you have to be prepared to go balls-deep and get the RS with a real POSP sight.

-Grant

[Dart]

Originally Posted by grantmac

I have to throw out that an SVD would also make for a very wide range of conflicts. Everything from VN to current.

Of course if your going to get one you have to be prepared to go balls-deep and get the RS with a real POSP sight.

-Grant

I did consider that but I already have my roll as a sniper with my vsr and a buddy who is building a dmr m14. We do how ever not have a support player yet.

[Disco_Dante]

Originally Posted by Dart

I did consider that but I already have my roll as a sniper with my vsr and a buddy who is building a dmr m14. We do how ever not have a support player yet.

Have you considered an RPK or a c2/l2 for a support weapon? They've seen conflicts on pretty much every continent in the last 50 years. Including the war for Antarctica.

[Frozen Tex]

I'm loving my SRC/TSD RPK (The Alphabet Soup Gun)

(Ignore the AKMS, if you can...)

Lots o' fun...

[Adamlxlx]

Originally Posted by shiftsup

Yeah I didn't get that either. I have had a number of people unfamiliar with the Thompson handle mine. Quite a number of them have said the Thompson has the best sights for airsoft engagements.

Dart, give the Thompson another look.

Ya Mike, the Thompson has some of the best iron sight in airsoft I have seen EVER, PERIOD lol.

[Dart]

Well after some sleepless nights and more googling than I could almost handle I have made a descision...ares ppsh-41! For the type of gaming we do out here a m60 would be too encombersoming *sp*. Basicly one field has a nice hill side that runs beside it and a city and island below. M60 in cqb would just suck lol and packing 30lbs of gun up that hill is not on my short list of things... My vsr and scar are enough. Anyone that has ever played at pac knows what I mean. The other field is mostly brush with some small buildings but those games are usually fast paced and not becoming to a large rifle.

The m60 seems like it needs a few annoying to find parts like the bipod yoke, hop up, and carrying handle to make it a sturdy weapon. Plus its got the wrong pistol grip on it for period and also the wrong mag... Plus the mag feeds on the wrong side.

The ppsh on the other hand runs a v7 gear box which is just a beauty to work on and lots of parts. The hop up is out of a g36 so again.. Parts. With 2500 rounds I can easily surpress people and become a suto saw if I need to. It opens up more conflict eras as well and countries. Plus the in soviet russia jokes will be too much fun lol.
Not to mention the ppsh is about $25 cheaper and it has the electronic blow back. Oh and its rare as hens teeth lol. Never seen one at the field.
Also if I don't like the ppsh I am sure it will sell in about 30 seconds of being up on the classifides.

Anyways I would like to thank you guys for your input. Looks like I just can't get away from russian guns... From a ak to a ppsh.

[shiftsup]

Hey Dart, congrats on making a decision on your next purchase. Even if you end up dislking the Ares PPSH-41 you should have no issue with selling it.

Ares is supposed to have an M3A? Grease Gun AEG coming out soon too. I am looking forward to that.

However, since other people may read this I have a rebuttal to your criticisms of the A & K M60 as they are a wee bit on the misinformation side of the spectrum

Originally Posted by Dart

The m60 seems like it needs a few annoying to find parts like the bipod yoke, hop up, and carrying handle to make it a sturdy weapon. Plus its got the wrong pistol grip on it for period and also the wrong mag... Plus the mag feeds on the wrong side.

1. Bipod Yoke: Yes it could very well break as it is not made of the sturdiest metal. However, my A & K M60 survived an accidental 3' fall onto a concrete floor without issue. You can always mod another airsoft bi pod to get that M60 look. RS M60 bipods go for around ~$200 USD. apparently they are shite too. *Edit: The M60 bi pod seems no less sturdier than my KA FAL bi pod. Also, I have a 2010 production version of the A & K M60. Maybe they improved the metal quality on the 2010 version from the 2009 production run.

2. Hop Up. Yeah the stock hop is sub par. Same goes for 100's of other AEGs. Edit, replacing the rubber and nub is always a good idea. Replacing the whole unit is ideal if and when they are in stock.

3. Carry Handle. Again not the sturdiest. However plenty of period pics show the M60 being carried other shoulder with no sling to be seen as it really was the only comfortable way to carry it. Even the US Army M60 manual recommends one hand on the carry handle and the other hand on the stock for movement from prone. The carry handle is there because the barrel of the real M60 got petty toasty after 200 rounds of sustained fire. You needed a gunner assistant to remove the barrel with an asbestos glove. I'll take a wild shot in the dark and say that most of those broken carry M60 carry handles are from holding it one handed like a suitcase around the field.

4. Wrong pistol grip: true, if it really really annoys you tape 'er up or search the 'nam airsoft boards for a resin copy of the Top M60 version (apparently possible and available).

5. Wrong mag: it's a decent functional airsoft version of the canvas bandloeer. All that is missing is the wax carboard box and the wearability of a bandoleer. It's not as if an Airsoft M60 bandloeer would be anywhere but on the M60 considering it holds a battery and the wire bb feed tube. You can always make a cardboard box that fits if you like. However, I understand that the Ino M60VNs come with carboard.

6. The mag feeds on the wrong side. Not sure where you got this info. However, this is only true if you are in England driving on the "wrong" side of the road.

One cool feature of the A & K M60 is that you can replicate the RS M60's fondness for becoming a "runaway" gun. Drop a bb or two underneath the mechbox when it's out of the receiver and you'll know what I am talking about.

Again Dart, enjoy your new purchase and be sure to put up a review.

[Dart]

Sob your making me want the pig again lol. Yah the one I am looking at would be a brand new model so maybe these issues have been worked out. Hmmm.