guarder 150% hammer spring (Tm glock 17)

spartan117 · January 5th, 2012, 20:48

I actually, its both forward and rearward strokes.

eKirts · January 5th, 2012, 21:24

I've heard that the Zero Hammer is notoriously hard to install and doesn't function all that great after the fact... Perhaps this was on early revisions... I have not tried it for my self due to being told this.. but I have a feeling its similar... feel free to correct me if anyone knows more than I do...

ShooterDesign hammer spring is a great choice, imo... seems to be the choice of many as well...

The binding sounds like its the nub that sticks down from the BBU that goes across the hammer roller... I made that nub a little less aggressive and polished it a bit... seemed to help the catching issue but i think its impossible to get rid off completely.... Is it catching when you pull the slide all the way back and release?... or are you helping/holding it along during the slide return?

spartan117 · January 5th, 2012, 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by eKirts

I've heard that the Zero Hammer is notoriously hard to install and doesn't function all that great after the fact... Perhaps this was on early revisions... I have not tried it for my self due to being told this.. but I feeling its similar... feel free to correct me if anyone knows more than I do...

ShooterDesign hammer spring is a great choice, imo... seems to be the choice of many as well...

The binding sounds like its the nub that sticks down from the BBU that goes across the hammer roller... I made that nub a little less aggressive and polished it a bit... seemed to help the catching issue but i think its impossible to get rid off completely.... Is it catching when you pull the slide all the way back and release?... or are you helping/holding it along during the slide return?

If i pull the slide all the way back and release it it goes back into battery fine. Even though its fine it slightly decreases my cycling speed. If i ride it gets stuck until i tap it. I just don;t like how hard it is when i pull the slide back.

eKirts · January 5th, 2012, 21:42

Well you could try what I did... but, you'd have to be careful, obviously... to far and it wont cock the hammer anymore... and then you'll be looking for a replacement or another mod...

I'd be interested in seeing who has been able to solve this issue completely as well... as mine sticks a little in the same spot during return even after the modification (only when you ride the return) but it cycles well under normal operation...

RacingManiac · January 6th, 2012, 01:12

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Originally Posted by spartan117

What brand if your hammer spring? The guarder one isn't too good.
.

I've only tried Guarder, and I've found no reason to switch...

spartan117 · January 6th, 2012, 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingManiac

I've only tried Guarder, and I've found no reason to switch...

Does your hammer catch the bottom of the blowback unit causing the slide to stick? Mine does. It still shoots perfectly but its very stiff when I rack the slide.

RacingManiac · January 6th, 2012, 01:19

Stick in what way? Does it impede function at all?

spartan117 · January 6th, 2012, 01:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingManiac

Stick in what way? Does it impede function at all?

It still functions perfectly when i shoot it. But when i pull the slide back i have to use a little more force than usual to chamber a round. Its where the bearing contacts the bottom of the BBU. When I pull the slide all the way back and then release it it chambers fine but it just feels really sluggish.

RacingManiac · January 6th, 2012, 01:30

Even 1911 does that.....I am not sure that is a problem per se...

spartan117 · January 6th, 2012, 01:50

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Originally Posted by RacingManiac

Even 1911 does that.....I am not sure that is a problem per se...

I don't think so... a 1911 shouldn't be that stiff. I mean I have to pull real hard to rack the slide. After the BBU rolls past the hammer bearing its smooth but when it starts contacting the BBU it just stiff again.

ILLusion · January 6th, 2012, 03:09

Have you ever tried to rack the slide of a real gun before?

You'll cry, if you feel that racking an airsoft gun with upgraded springs is tough.

Lift some weights.

spartan117 · January 6th, 2012, 03:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLusion

Have you ever tried to rack the slide of a real gun before?

You'll cry, if you feel that racking an airsoft gun with upgraded springs is tough.

Lift some weights.

Yes i have lol. I've fired a p226, Glock, M&P9, and a Les Baer 1911. But thats a diff feeling. I'll try to make a video once i get back to Vancouver.

Shirley · January 6th, 2012, 04:42

The question is, have you racked the gun before you upgraded?
Have you racked another Glock? lol

spartan117 · January 6th, 2012, 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman

The question is, have you racked the gun before you upgraded?
Have you racked another Glock? lol

Of course I racked it before I upgraded

ILLusion · January 6th, 2012, 14:50

I know what you're referring to, though. It's sometimes a bit concerning, and it does create more wear to the blowback unit.

Regarding the Guns Modify Zero Hammer - I've heard of the same issues as well. Some of my gunsmith buddies in HK polish the crap out of it before hand and file out edges that create restriction. Some say it needs a "break in" period first, but I say that's a brute force approach to something that should be properly machined to begin with. Other 'smiths agree, and rather than wear out other parts with this "break in period", they work the item in prior to installation to ensure smooth functioning from the get-go.

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January 5th, 2012, 21:24	#17
eKirts Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Guelph, Ontario	I've heard that the Zero Hammer is notoriously hard to install and doesn't function all that great after the fact... Perhaps this was on early revisions... I have not tried it for my self due to being told this.. but I have a feeling its similar... feel free to correct me if anyone knows more than I do... ShooterDesign hammer spring is a great choice, imo... seems to be the choice of many as well... The binding sounds like its the nub that sticks down from the BBU that goes across the hammer roller... I made that nub a little less aggressive and polished it a bit... seemed to help the catching issue but i think its impossible to get rid off completely.... Is it catching when you pull the slide all the way back and release?... or are you helping/holding it along during the slide return? Last edited by eKirts; January 5th, 2012 at 21:31.. Reason: added binding comment

January 6th, 2012, 01:19	#22
RacingManiac Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada/US	Stick in what way? Does it impede function at all? __________________ My Arnies' Album My PBase Album Custom Pistol Whore...

January 6th, 2012, 01:30	#24
RacingManiac Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada/US	Even 1911 does that.....I am not sure that is a problem per se... __________________ My Arnies' Album My PBase Album Custom Pistol Whore...

January 5th, 2012, 20:48	#16
spartan117 Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vancouver B.C	I actually, its both forward and rearward strokes.

January 5th, 2012, 21:42	#19
eKirts Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Guelph, Ontario	Well you could try what I did... but, you'd have to be careful, obviously... to far and it wont cock the hammer anymore... and then you'll be looking for a replacement or another mod... I'd be interested in seeing who has been able to solve this issue completely as well... as mine sticks a little in the same spot during return even after the modification (only when you ride the return) but it cycles well under normal operation...

January 6th, 2012, 03:09	#26
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	Have you ever tried to rack the slide of a real gun before? You'll cry, if you feel that racking an airsoft gun with upgraded springs is tough. Lift some weights. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

January 6th, 2012, 04:42	#28
Shirley A-56 aka Mr.Hitman Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto, ON	The question is, have you racked the gun before you upgraded? Have you racked another Glock? lol __________________ CANADIAN AIRSOFT PRACTICAL SHOOTING (CAPS) CAPS DIRECTOR # 0047

January 6th, 2012, 14:50	#30
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	I know what you're referring to, though. It's sometimes a bit concerning, and it does create more wear to the blowback unit. Regarding the Guns Modify Zero Hammer - I've heard of the same issues as well. Some of my gunsmith buddies in HK polish the crap out of it before hand and file out edges that create restriction. Some say it needs a "break in" period first, but I say that's a brute force approach to something that should be properly machined to begin with. Other 'smiths agree, and rather than wear out other parts with this "break in period", they work the item in prior to installation to ensure smooth functioning from the get-go. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

guarder 150% hammer spring (Tm glock 17)

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