New guy going from real to airsoft. These laws are confusing.

Curo · February 29th, 2012, 16:08

Maybe, but for now we sit we hope we pray.

leblanc74 · February 29th, 2012, 16:45

Anyone can own an airsoft ....however....not everyone can have a RPAL......blame it on irresponsible kids that flash their airsoft around....you will never see an adult walking around with their AR and saying look people my new Colt LE6940 ...

Styrak · February 29th, 2012, 17:54

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Originally Posted by leblanc74

not everyone can have a RPAL

Most people can though.

Crunchmeister · February 29th, 2012, 18:35

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Originally Posted by leblanc74

...you will never see an adult walking around with their AR and saying look people my new Colt LE6940 ...

You'd think that, but you'd be wrong. It's happened. We've had members of this forum show up in public places with their airsoft guns out in the open.

Ricochet · February 29th, 2012, 19:24

Tokyo Marui still makes some of the best pistols on the market. Unfortunately a stock TM gun shoots around 300 FPS, no fail.

leblanc74 · February 29th, 2012, 20:19

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Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

You'd think that, but you'd be wrong. It's happened. We've had members of this forum show up in public places with their airsoft guns out in the open.

I meant a Real Colt....but that is a sad in regards for suposetively mature people to do such things like that...

leblanc74 · February 29th, 2012, 20:24

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Originally Posted by Styrak

Most people can though.

But you still need to go through a few courses and get an phone interview by the RCMP...which illiminates some idiots (not all) and most important....MINORS

Bloodstriker · February 29th, 2012, 20:53

Don't forget an important point. Once the velocity exceeds 500fps AND the muzzle energy is in excess if a certain amount, it is classified as a firearm that falls under the firearm act. This means at this point, there are laws about how you can transport, store, and use. Also, a short barrel length and being full auto would prohibit it.
That being said, I don't know if the muzzle energy can reach that high with a plastic BB.

mcguyver · February 29th, 2012, 21:02

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Originally Posted by Styrak

Most people can though.

About 60% of Canadians are ineligible for a PAL of any flavour.

Even worse if you live in Quebec with Law 9 and their home location requirements.

JLiang · February 29th, 2012, 23:05

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Originally Posted by Bloodstriker

That being said, I don't know if the muzzle energy can reach that high with a plastic BB.

You, sir, have obviously never seen a tuned sniper rifle.

And I agree, Canada's legislation is quite 'messed up', so to speak. I even spoke to a CBSA agent when I went to America last Winter Break, and he told me all the stuff you guys did, gave me a sheet, stamped it, and told me I could bring a couple in if they shot over 407 FPS. If I got stopped, he told me to call him. I thought I was in a dream, but the Airsoft store I went to didn't have competitive prices at all. In fact, they cost even more than in Canada. The point here is that even the CBSA agent was willing to let me exploit the loophole, and it's really confusing as to why.

When my friend got into Airsoft, he asked me all about the legislation and all that, and when I explained it to him and showed him the actual documents, all he could say was, "What in the actual F*ck?!"

There are just so many gray areas in the law regarding our sport. It makes life difficult.

Styrak · March 1st, 2012, 00:27

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Originally Posted by mcguyver

About 60% of Canadians are ineligible for a PAL of any flavour.

Oh? Why so many?
Also do you have stats you're looking at somewhere? It would be interesting to see.

pinksoda · March 1st, 2012, 11:23

how about F the law?

Dirtbag · March 1st, 2012, 17:28

The 60% is statistical BS, you need only be over a given age and able to pass a test. Assuming you are not under a lifetime or other firearms prohibition.

There are a few other issues such as anger issues, pissed off ex that can screw things up.

But the bottom line is about 10% of those who are eligible apply will not get a PAL.

misomalu · April 25th, 2012, 01:02

I know this thread is about a month old, but what exactly do the new laws say? I mean if I personally order a gun from over seas that shoots over 366 fps, does that mean that it will get to me? Or will the CBSA just hold/destroy my gun if they feel like it? I'm sure this has already been asked by someone, but I have searched forums for hours finding no answer, or even mention of this law.

ap27 · April 25th, 2012, 01:14

It will either get seized, and you will receive a letter of seizure, or it will be taken for testing by the RCMP, which will take anywhere from 3 months to over a year.

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February 29th, 2012, 16:45	#17
leblanc74 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Coquitlam	Anyone can own an airsoft ....however....not everyone can have a RPAL......blame it on irresponsible kids that flash their airsoft around....you will never see an adult walking around with their AR and saying look people my new Colt LE6940 ... __________________ My Collection: Seller/Buyer Feedback Last edited by leblanc74; February 29th, 2012 at 16:50..

February 29th, 2012, 19:24	#20
Ricochet How much sand CAN you fit in your vagina!? Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Delta, BC (Greater Vancouver)	Tokyo Marui still makes some of the best pistols on the market. Unfortunately a stock TM gun shoots around 300 FPS, no fail. __________________ I have developed a new sport called Airhard. Pretty much the same as Airsoft, except you have to maintain an erection...

March 1st, 2012, 17:28	#28
Dirtbag Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2004	60% statistical BS The 60% is statistical BS, you need only be over a given age and able to pass a test. Assuming you are not under a lifetime or other firearms prohibition. There are a few other issues such as anger issues, pissed off ex that can screw things up. But the bottom line is about 10% of those who are eligible apply will not get a PAL.

February 29th, 2012, 20:53	#23
Bloodstriker Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2012	Don't forget an important point. Once the velocity exceeds 500fps AND the muzzle energy is in excess if a certain amount, it is classified as a firearm that falls under the firearm act. This means at this point, there are laws about how you can transport, store, and use. Also, a short barrel length and being full auto would prohibit it. That being said, I don't know if the muzzle energy can reach that high with a plastic BB.

March 1st, 2012, 11:23	#27
pinksoda Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Mississauga	how about F the law?

April 25th, 2012, 01:02	#29
misomalu Trader rating Join Date: May 2009	I know this thread is about a month old, but what exactly do the new laws say? I mean if I personally order a gun from over seas that shoots over 366 fps, does that mean that it will get to me? Or will the CBSA just hold/destroy my gun if they feel like it? I'm sure this has already been asked by someone, but I have searched forums for hours finding no answer, or even mention of this law.

April 25th, 2012, 01:14	#30
ap27 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Milton, ON	It will either get seized, and you will receive a letter of seizure, or it will be taken for testing by the RCMP, which will take anywhere from 3 months to over a year. __________________ H&K G36c (KWA) / Glock 18c (TM) / Kimber LAPD SWAT Custom (TM) / Mossberg M500 (ACM)

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