M249 feedback

ThunderCactus · May 9th, 2012, 00:08

G&P uses a standard M4 nozzle as well, but uses a superior AUG hop chamber, and a V2 mechbox. The advantage of which is that it's 100% TM compatible for upgrades
Anything you can put in a G&P M4 can be put in their 249

Brodie_BHD · May 9th, 2012, 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

G&P uses a standard M4 nozzle as well, but uses a superior AUG hop chamber, and a V2 mechbox. The advantage of which is that it's 100% TM compatible for upgrades
Anything you can put in a G&P M4 can be put in their 249

This is why I love my G&P 249!

Only thing I need now is a lower rail system which seems to be impossible to find right now and sold out everywhere!

I seem to be getting about 180-200ft out of my G&P 249 Marine (MK2)

Danke · May 9th, 2012, 00:24

How'd you crack your G&P?

Brodie_BHD · May 9th, 2012, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke

How'd you crack your G&P?

Brand new out of the box it had the mechbox crack. Im guessing due to the super high FPS regs for importing at the time they must of test fired it. No regular stock V2 could really handle those kinds of power levels.

ThunderCactus · May 9th, 2012, 11:16

When I got mine they were coming in at 420fps
But with ARS cylinder/piston heads now, the PGC mechbox's toughness is no longer an advantage. I've run mine at 380fps and 1100-1300rpm for 2 years now, and 350fps for 2 and half years before that, same mechbox shell as when i bought it, no cracks.
It helps that G&P makes some of the toughest stock shells out there too.

Crunchmeister · May 9th, 2012, 12:24

I was on the receiving end of my own A&K M249 POST hopup mod (I installed a Guarder Clear sleeve and used a piece of speaker wire insulation for the nub) at Border Wars II when I let one of our local guys on the other team use it for the game.

The dude was at the end of a path 200-ish feet away from our respawn picking off people with impunity and no one else could touch him. He said he could see BBs of people shooting at him hitting the ground 30+ feet in front of him.

ThunderCactus · May 9th, 2012, 16:23

Yep, I'm sure a lot of people who favor green camo could tell you how devastating mine is at claybank lol
Having a high quality hop rubber in there is a HUGE advantage!
I'm running a guarder black with SCS right now, but I wanna try a firefly and see how that goes.
I'm also still using the stock 6.08 barrel, never really thought about upgrading. I'd like to stick to 6.08, but may have to settle for a 6.05

Eeyore · May 12th, 2012, 21:09

Can anyone tell me what gearbox an A&K M249 uses? For example an AR uses a type 2 and V3 for an AK.

ex · May 12th, 2012, 21:23

Version 69

LOL.

It's just called a CA M249 gear box as far as I know. It has no "Version" assigned to it.

Drake · May 12th, 2012, 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eeyore

Can anyone tell me what gearbox an A&K M249 uses? For example an AR uses a type 2 and V3 for an AK.

The A&K is a clone of the CA which was itself a clone of the TOP M249 with the aftermarket PGC gearbox (to replace the troublesome TOP bellows system) cloned and installed by default.

Eeyore · May 12th, 2012, 22:06

I'm asking because I want to know which type of piston, piston head, cylinder etc... its would take.

ex · May 12th, 2012, 22:08

V2 if I remember correctly...

spaceman13 · May 12th, 2012, 22:24

It uses v2 m4 internals,v3 short motor and proprietary 8mm bearings.
Just did a complete upgrade on my echo 1

Drake · May 12th, 2012, 22:26

V2/V3 parts should fit.

A&K used an M4/M16 length nozzle and you'll need a V2 spring guide since it screws into the base.

ThunderCactus · May 13th, 2012, 18:02

I always have trouble fitting the gears properly in those PGC mechboxes. The spur gear always rubs on the mechbox so I gotta file and dremel a bit. CA doesn't use TM spec gears, they're actually slightly off spec. Not enough to cause failures, but enough that upgraded gears always sounds like shit

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May 9th, 2012, 00:24	#18
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	How'd you crack your G&P? __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

May 9th, 2012, 12:24	#21
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	I was on the receiving end of my own A&K M249 POST hopup mod (I installed a Guarder Clear sleeve and used a piece of speaker wire insulation for the nub) at Border Wars II when I let one of our local guys on the other team use it for the game. The dude was at the end of a path 200-ish feet away from our respawn picking off people with impunity and no one else could touch him. He said he could see BBs of people shooting at him hitting the ground 30+ feet in front of him. __________________

May 12th, 2012, 21:23	#24
ex Wanna buy some Nod's? #StolenValour Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ottawa	Version 69 LOL. It's just called a CA M249 gear box as far as I know. It has no "Version" assigned to it. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

May 9th, 2012, 00:08	#16
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	G&P uses a standard M4 nozzle as well, but uses a superior AUG hop chamber, and a V2 mechbox. The advantage of which is that it's 100% TM compatible for upgrades Anything you can put in a G&P M4 can be put in their 249

May 9th, 2012, 11:16	#20
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	When I got mine they were coming in at 420fps But with ARS cylinder/piston heads now, the PGC mechbox's toughness is no longer an advantage. I've run mine at 380fps and 1100-1300rpm for 2 years now, and 350fps for 2 and half years before that, same mechbox shell as when i bought it, no cracks. It helps that G&P makes some of the toughest stock shells out there too.

May 9th, 2012, 16:23	#22
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Yep, I'm sure a lot of people who favor green camo could tell you how devastating mine is at claybank lol Having a high quality hop rubber in there is a HUGE advantage! I'm running a guarder black with SCS right now, but I wanna try a firefly and see how that goes. I'm also still using the stock 6.08 barrel, never really thought about upgrading. I'd like to stick to 6.08, but may have to settle for a 6.05

May 12th, 2012, 22:08	#27
ex Wanna buy some Nod's? #StolenValour Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ottawa	V2 if I remember correctly... __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

May 12th, 2012, 22:24	#28
spaceman13 so far out of here, Nasa started tracking Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bathurst NB	It uses v2 m4 internals,v3 short motor and proprietary 8mm bearings. Just did a complete upgrade on my echo 1 __________________ okey dokey lokey

May 12th, 2012, 22:26	#29
Drake E-01 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, QC	V2/V3 parts should fit. A&K used an M4/M16 length nozzle and you'll need a V2 spring guide since it screws into the base. __________________

May 13th, 2012, 18:02	#30
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	I always have trouble fitting the gears properly in those PGC mechboxes. The spur gear always rubs on the mechbox so I gotta file and dremel a bit. CA doesn't use TM spec gears, they're actually slightly off spec. Not enough to cause failures, but enough that upgraded gears always sounds like shit

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