Chinese knock off aeg's

kalnaren · January 28th, 2007, 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moz

Parts / value.

I didn't intend to use this CYMA AEG I bought as a long term weapon for skirmishing but the more I learn about it's compatibility I'm considering upgrading it when it starts to fail.

Same for me. I'm planning on getting a TM or CA sometime in the summer (I was looking at a Star L85, but after considering the cost of it I think I'm going to abandon that idea for a couple of years :P). Who knows, if the CYMA lasts long enough, I may keep it around as a secondary. Since none of the old folks will purchase one I guess we'll be the guinea pigs lol.

philstructo · January 28th, 2007, 20:34

I had a M4A1 Electric gun and i could throw the bbs farther and harder than it shot and it was from china

kalnaren · January 28th, 2007, 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by philstructo

I had a M4A1 Electric gun and i could throw the bbs farther and harder than it shot and it was from china

Was it one of the new ones or older ones?

Greylocks · January 28th, 2007, 21:39

I have bought cheap ass guns on occasion, but they get used in courses (not on the field).
For that purpose, the gun can be pure crap. It does not matter as long as it looks like the real version enough to serve in a show-and-tell.

MadMax · January 28th, 2007, 22:41

I got to look at some pretty reasonable guns which are upcoming releases from Cybergun (european airsoft distributer). I'm not sure what brand name they'll be marketed under though. I met their R&D guy who is working with the manfacturer to produce economical yet well performing AEGs. They're launching some decent Armalites, AKs and a not bad Thompson which seem to shoot pretty well with decent power. Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to dig into the mechbox, but from a superficial first look at early release products, they seem pretty good.

The target MSRP for the US and European market is $200USD including battery, charger and hicap which is quite a steal if they are mechanically sound for the long term. Out of the box they chrony 320fps w' 0.2g bbs so they're not the usual 100fps junk guns we're used to bitching about. Their finish is certainly not as nice as the impecable TM finish. Mould parting lines aren't quite as clean, but overall they're quite good for the price.

ancorp · January 28th, 2007, 23:48

Everything you listed on those Cyberguns is pretty much what the new Cymas/UTGs/JG, etc are, except cheaper than $200 US.

Cheers,
Alex

Moderate · January 29th, 2007, 00:12

Would I buy? I did.
Would I buy it again? Hell no. High quality is the only kind of quality worth my pennies.

ancorp · January 29th, 2007, 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by moderatesniper

Would I buy? I did.
Would I buy it again? Hell no. High quality is the only kind of quality worth my pennies.

What is it that you bought, and what did you not like about it? (down to the very last dirty details

)

Cheers,
Alex

conrad13 · January 29th, 2007, 00:54

I got one and it's become a project gun.

Skruface · January 29th, 2007, 01:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

I got to look at some pretty reasonable guns which are upcoming releases from Cybergun (european airsoft distributer). I'm not sure what brand name they'll be marketed under though. I met their R&D guy who is working with the manfacturer to produce economical yet well performing AEGs. They're launching some decent Armalites, AKs and a not bad Thompson which seem to shoot pretty well with decent power. Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to dig into the mechbox, but from a superficial first look at early release products, they seem pretty good.

The target MSRP for the US and European market is $200USD including battery, charger and hicap which is quite a steal if they are mechanically sound for the long term. Out of the box they chrony 320fps w' 0.2g bbs so they're not the usual 100fps junk guns we're used to bitching about. Their finish is certainly not as nice as the impecable TM finish. Mould parting lines aren't quite as clean, but overall they're quite good for the price.

I thought Cybergun was the American distributor and 3PSA was the French/Euro one?

Regardless, I will never buy Cybergun, not due to quality, but due to ethical concerns. They are trying to bully all their American competition out of business, and are intentionally putting up roadblacks to try and prevent ICS, CA, and TM from using California ports for importation into the US, and that has the potential drive the cost of domestic airsoft up (unless you want to buy Cybergun).

Read and be educated.

http://willsroom.com/aopics/cybergun.html

8thArmy · January 29th, 2007, 03:15

Im a chinese and i gone back to china almost every year..but when it comes to something i really like?no,i wont buy a made in china AEG for sure since im familiar with chinese machinary products qualities,i wont waste my cash on it.
CA and TM are sure expansive but they worth the qualities.

Oz · January 29th, 2007, 03:16

Why buy a gun that your going to swap every part out of anyhow... why not just start from scratch? Buying a gun for ~$200 less than a TM/CA/ICS then drop $300 on internals? Why not just buy a TM/CA/ICS, have a top quality finish and no imediate need to switch out every single part... These 'cheap' guns dont make sence to me.

666 · January 29th, 2007, 03:27

Project gun time! / Strip them for parts

The Saint · January 29th, 2007, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oz

Why buy a gun that your going to swap every part out of anyhow... why not just start from scratch? Buying a gun for ~$200 less than a TM/CA/ICS then drop $300 on internals? Why not just buy a TM/CA/ICS, have a top quality finish and no imediate need to switch out every single part... These 'cheap' guns dont make sence to me.

Because with the latest ones, the finishes are actually pretty good and you don't need to drop in $300 worth of internals. The typical targets, tappet, nozzle, spring guide, spring and inner barrel all together are far under $300. You're also switching out below par stock parts for above par aftermarket parts, so you're ending up with internals that at least in part are better than TM/CA/ISC. Starting from scratch would be a lot more expensive in comparison.

Solo · January 29th, 2007, 14:08

Ive already seen first hand one of the aug's and personally it was a piece of S*#!. No fuse at all, wired directly into gun. Aswell as cheap plastic.
Battery and charger that came with it aswell were really poor quallity aswell.
Buyer is sending batt back to original supplier.

Possably good starter for those who jump into the sport head first..LOL

Anyway just my 2cents..

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January 28th, 2007, 22:41	#20
MadMax Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop	I got to look at some pretty reasonable guns which are upcoming releases from Cybergun (european airsoft distributer). I'm not sure what brand name they'll be marketed under though. I met their R&D guy who is working with the manfacturer to produce economical yet well performing AEGs. They're launching some decent Armalites, AKs and a not bad Thompson which seem to shoot pretty well with decent power. Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to dig into the mechbox, but from a superficial first look at early release products, they seem pretty good. The target MSRP for the US and European market is $200USD including battery, charger and hicap which is quite a steal if they are mechanically sound for the long term. Out of the box they chrony 320fps w' 0.2g bbs so they're not the usual 100fps junk guns we're used to bitching about. Their finish is certainly not as nice as the impecable TM finish. Mould parting lines aren't quite as clean, but overall they're quite good for the price. __________________ Want nearly free GBB gas?

January 29th, 2007, 03:15	#26
8thArmy Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vancouver BC Canada	Im a chinese and i gone back to china almost every year..but when it comes to something i really like?no,i wont buy a made in china AEG for sure since im familiar with chinese machinary products qualities,i wont waste my cash on it. CA and TM are sure expansive but they worth the qualities. __________________ "Вставай, проклятьем заклеймённый, Весь мир голодных и рабов!" "乌拉!"

January 28th, 2007, 20:34	#17
philstructo Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton	I had a M4A1 Electric gun and i could throw the bbs farther and harder than it shot and it was from china

January 28th, 2007, 21:39	#19
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	I have bought cheap ass guns on occasion, but they get used in courses (not on the field). For that purpose, the gun can be pure crap. It does not matter as long as it looks like the real version enough to serve in a show-and-tell.

January 28th, 2007, 23:48	#21
ancorp AK Guru Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vaughan, Ontario (near Toronto)	Everything you listed on those Cyberguns is pretty much what the new Cymas/UTGs/JG, etc are, except cheaper than $200 US. Cheers, Alex

January 29th, 2007, 00:12	#22
Moderate Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Under a Bridge	Would I buy? I did. Would I buy it again? Hell no. High quality is the only kind of quality worth my pennies.

January 29th, 2007, 00:54	#24
conrad13 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oakville, Ontario	I got one and it's become a project gun.

January 29th, 2007, 03:16	#27
Oz Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vancouver	Why buy a gun that your going to swap every part out of anyhow... why not just start from scratch? Buying a gun for ~$200 less than a TM/CA/ICS then drop $300 on internals? Why not just buy a TM/CA/ICS, have a top quality finish and no imediate need to switch out every single part... These 'cheap' guns dont make sence to me.

January 29th, 2007, 03:27	#28
666 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Project gun time! / Strip them for parts

January 29th, 2007, 14:08	#30
Solo Trader rating Join Date: May 2002 Location: Windsor, Ontario.	Ive already seen first hand one of the aug's and personally it was a piece of S*#!. No fuse at all, wired directly into gun. Aswell as cheap plastic. Battery and charger that came with it aswell were really poor quallity aswell. Buyer is sending batt back to original supplier. Possably good starter for those who jump into the sport head first..LOL Anyway just my 2cents.. __________________ http://www.windsormetalservices.com Sell and Trade Buy&sell feedback

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