CA to release new M14's and get this... plastic bodied M15A4's....

[JoeyJackhammer]

TM M14 is a very solid gun and needs nothing in terms or exterior reinforcement. It's performance is incredible and with light upgrades (spring, spring guide, tightbore...) it is a tack driver. I'll be buying a M14 eventually, and you can count on it being a TM, not from rumors of CA's being no good, but because the TM simply kicks ass.

[Skladfin]

My Friend just got a CA G36C.

Got through like 500~800 rounds through it not really any problems at this point really.

[Captain Tenneal]

Also another problem with CA's is their bad hopup units. Stock CA's almost always have the shittiest range of anyone's AEG's (I think it has to do with defective rubbers and buckings that they ship with all guns but, my AUG with a new PDC hopup unit and a new systema rubber still has less range than my stock TM P226.)

If you want a gun that works from the get go; go with TM. If you want your sturdier body, but internals that require replacement, go with CA.

[Ronan]

Originally Posted by Ace of Spades

Don't kid your self about "TM couldn't have CA exterior quality". The TM externals are just as good, if not better then those of the CA.

Sorry but bwuahahahhahaha. CA beats TM external finishes any time. After handling a couple stock TM's (and feeling like a kid) i went back to fiddling a couple CA's (*orgasm*). Man... why do people even buy TM? Oh yeah... because they stick metal bodies on them. Heck even my CA stock looks 10 times better than a TM stock. I have also seen a TM RIS handguard... you could still see the casting lines on it...

Save yourself some hassle, grab a CA, change that cheap piston head and you are good to go. Oh and the bucking.

I asked a couple vets why does CA doesn't change their internals to TM standards... i was answered the following: 'CA knows we get their guns and then just upgrade the internals to the fps we want. So they don't bother changing their way's.'

If you want realism, grab a CA (unless you got 3 grande sitting around, get a PTW), and change some internal parts. It's worth it!

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Ronan

Sorry but bwuahahahhahaha. CA beats TM external finishes any time. After handling a couple stock TM's (and feeling like a kid) i went back to fiddling a couple CA's (*orgasm*). Man... why do people even buy TM? Oh yeah... because they stick metal bodies on them. Heck even my CA stock looks 10 times better than a TM stock. I have also seen a TM RIS handguard... you could still see the casting lines on it...

But you can't even take out your trigger guard roll pin :P

[Donster]

that is all good advice. and its not that i haven't done my research, but i just dont know which compnay to buy from. While i beleive that CA beats in terms of exterior quality, TM, from the get go, beats out CA. And if i buy a gun, i wont have any money to invest in upgraades right away. That, and the fact that i can get more upgrades for a TM M14 than a CA M14. However, if i go with a G36, stock, i would get the CA. However, i was told that you can upgrade a G36c into a G36k or G36. That being said, i would still get the TM cause i would change the exterior with a metal reciever and a nylon fiber handguard. Thanks to all who answered my questions. i really appreciate it. i am going to go with a TM M14 i think. now i just gotta save up and buy it =P

[Brit ter]

I own a CA M-15 in plastic , it,s crap.

[CDN_Stalker]

DO NOT force the trigger assembly on with the CA M14, I had one come to me and the little latch thing on the mechbox was snapped off and zero chance of fixing it, so it could be a "Buy a new mechbox" moment.

[kalnaren]

I have no problems with my CA36. Though even after a spring upgrade it's range does seem limited....

[Mr. G36!]

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

...if i go with a G36, stock, i would get the CA. However, i was told that you can upgrade a G36c into a G36k or G36. That being said, i would still get the TM cause i would change the exterior with a metal reciever and a nylon fiber handguard.

Remember that if you get a TM G36C, slapping a longer handgrip and barrel won't make it shoot any better than it does stock; you need to get a longer inner barrel as well, which means a new cylinder as well I believe. If you want a G36 or G36K from the start, just buy one (the Star G36 series, I've heard, is exquisite, and should be picked over CA). It'll probably cost less than upgrading a TM G36C to a full-length G36.

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by Brit ter

I own a CA M-15 in plastic , it,s crap.

You mean you own their new M15 AEG with the plastic receiver, or their old springer M15? If it's the springer, of course it's not going to be that great.

[Brit ter]

Yes saint , its the springer

[Skruface]

Originally Posted by Ronan

Man... why do people even buy TM?

A challenger appears!

1 word: reliability

In 9 years I have never had a TM gun arrive broken from the factory. I've had quite a few CA's that didn't work out of the box, or broke within 1000 rounds, or needed replacement parts out of the box.

I say the new/stock TM of my choice will outlast the new/stock CA of your choice in a 9.6 volt, 200,000 round torture test. Loser pays for the BBs.

[Ronan]

Originally Posted by Skruface

A challenger appears!

1 word: reliability

In 9 years I have never had a TM gun arrive broken from the factory. I've had quite a few CA's that didn't work out of the box, or broke within 1000 rounds, or needed replacement parts out of the box.

I say the new/stock TM of my choice will outlast the new/stock CA of your choice in a 9.6 volt, 200,000 round torture test. Loser pays for the BBs.

Thanks for stating what i stated!
I said that TM are much more reliable. But it's cheaper to get a CA, and change the internals to TM standards or above TM standards

Or you can do what certain people do, get a TM, change the internals to above standard parts, stick a metal body, change the stock, and finish by changing the front so you have a really nice looking gun. Or just get a CA and change the internals...

But i do like the idea that a lot of parts are compatible with TM. I'm not sure about CA tho... so for custom work, i would go with TM or just built from scratch with TM compatible parts.

[attack-beaver]

i guess i must have a weird CA my G3 as had the shit beat out of it. my only problem was the stock because i was a moron and landed on it. but the amount i have shot through it on a single trigger pull with nothing bad happening.

i have a few upgrades in mind but i want to saves some time and money and just get a systema mech box and some new hop-up parts and inner barrel.