JingGong AK Beta

[Rukus]

I had the mech box upgraded in my JG mp5, so it's internals are basically on the same page as a TM. Though we'll see in the long run.

[T@NK]

alright, thx 4 so much info, gonna make my order today

[Harbinger of Darkness]

I've got a JG/Echo1 G36C Quality on it is awsome. Just as good as my buddy's TM one. One thing I can say though is upgrade the nylon bushings ASAP. They wear down pretty quick.

[Dao]

Originally Posted by Harbinger of Darkness

I've got a JG/Echo1 G36C Quality on it is awsome. Just as good as my buddy's TM one. One thing I can say though is upgrade the nylon bushings ASAP. They wear down pretty quick.

Aren't the bushings in the new JG G36C metal now?
i've heard they have been using some metal parts now

[Skruface]

Originally Posted by ~JARSH~

so if u dont mind not having any trade marks and want to save a few bucks, buy a jg and if it breaks you can always spend the money u saved on upgrades.(which you would have to get right away with a tm gun.)

Sorry, but this is patently false information. You don't have to do anything to a TM to make it skirmish-worthy other than add ammo and battery. Certainly, adding metal bushings will add to longevity, but I have a stock TM P90 with about 65,000 rounds through it that still functions flawlessly. TM guns don't generally *need* upgrades to perform well.

For some reason an awful lot of new players seem to think that a 360 fps chinese knockoff is automatically "better" than a 300 fps Japanese original. I beg to differ. FPS is not the be-all and end-all for determining an airsoft gun's overall performance. FPS does not make your gun more accurate or even necessarily give it more range - inner barrel quality, hopup quality, and airseal do. These are all common problem areas with Chinese clones, but usually not with TM guns.

If you have a lot of experience rebuilding guns and are looking for a cheap platform for a project gun in which you are going to end up swapping out a majority of parts anyways, then the Chinese clones are good place to start. True, there are a few Chinese clones that are "near TM quality", but there are also a lot more that are crap - it depends on the model, the production run, the manufacturer, and sometimes whether the stars have aligned properly.

The bottom line is if you're looking for something that will shoot well EVERY SINGLE TIME you pull the trigger, you won't find any better than TM.

That said, the JG AK's are a very good deal for the money. They usually require degreasing and reshimming of the gearbox, but other than that they are quite solid.

Here's your freebeis, 'cuz I'm a nice guy and home sick from work today:

YouTube - NEW JG AK47 BETA FOLD STOCK REVIEW
YouTube - JG AK47 Spetsnaz Quality Review

[Donster]

if you are going to save up, get a TM. you can't go wrong. from my general research, you buy CA for the body and immediately replace the internals, notably the piston head and the hop up. TM you dont have to do anything with off the bat and you are guaranteed a good gun outta the box. while i can not dispute the claims made by the others that their China guns are good (i myself will be getting an ECHO down the road) i would imagine that their quality control would not be as good as TM and thus you have a chance of getting a lemon. the other concern that is growing more real is China neglect of health and safety regulations. there is a good possibility that your AEG might contain harmful materials. i mean if they were lax on children's toys, god knows about adult toys.

[Brit ter]

I own a JG M-4 , and I bought it used . I have not had any problems with it so for it shoots good

[redmond]

Originally Posted by Skruface

PS does not make your gun more accurate or even necessarily give it more range - inner barrel quality, hopup quality, and airseal do. These are all common problem areas with Chinese clones, but usually not with TM guns.

Quoted for the truth. I've been playing with stock guns for 2 years now. Never have i felt the need to upgrade any of the AEGs i used, and never have i felt "outranged" by other people with hot guns.

Butttt, i did just grab a AGM MP40, and the only reason i'm "upgrading" it, is because i know the internals will crap out, eventually.

[Skruface]

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

the other concern that is growing more real is China neglect of health and safety regulations. there is a good possibility that your AEG might contain harmful materials. i mean if they were lax on children's toys, god knows about adult toys.

Don't put your airsoft gun in your mouth, then.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by Skruface

Don't put your airsoft gun in your mouth, then.

Don't put anything not design to go in an AEG into an AEG

[Donster]

hahaha points taken and noted. no but in all seriousness, lead and poisonous materials on the gun is dangerous... obviously. im not saying to put your hands in your mouth after touching your gun, its just a concern that is becoming more prevalent.

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

hahaha points taken and noted. no but in all seriousness, lead and poisonous materials on the gun is dangerous... obviously. im not saying to put your hands in your mouth after touching your gun, its just a concern that is becoming more prevalent.

Understood. I don't think it will really be an issue with airsoft guns though. The market is small enough that any company found to be doing this will quickly find their products not being bought in the US or Europe.

[~JARSH~]

[QUOTE=Skruface;582664]Sorry, but this is patently false information. You don't have to do anything to a TM to make it skirmish-worthy other than add ammo and battery. Certainly, adding metal bushings will add to longevity, but I have a stock TM P90 with about 65,000 rounds through it that still functions flawlessly. TM guns don't generally *need* upgrades to perform well.

well from my experiences, i just cant reach out and touch someone with a tm, like i can with my jg. no need too say the info im giving is "false". most people like to open there mechboxes and change a few parts anyway. and if you do a side by side comparison of a tm and a jg there isnt a huge difference, other than trademarks and springs.

[Donster]

Originally Posted by ~JARSH~

if you do a side by side comparison of a tm and a jg there isnt a huge difference, other than trademarks and springs.

what about the QUALITY of the internals?

[kalnaren]

[QUOTE=~JARSH~;582802]

Originally Posted by Skruface

Sorry, but this is patently false information. You don't have to do anything to a TM to make it skirmish-worthy other than add ammo and battery. Certainly, adding metal bushings will add to longevity, but I have a stock TM P90 with about 65,000 rounds through it that still functions flawlessly. TM guns don't generally *need* upgrades to perform well.

well from my experiences, i just cant reach out and touch someone with a tm, like i can with my jg. no need too say the info im giving is "false". most people like to open there mechboxes and change a few parts anyway. and if you do a side by side comparison of a tm and a jg there isnt a huge difference, other than trademarks and springs.

Remeber -TM internals are designed to work almost forever at 280 fps. JG internals are an exact copy of TM internals. Except they shoot at 340-370 (or whatever) FPS. So, here's a question: Are TM internals designed to shoot at 370? Answer: No.