Star M249 upgrades??

The Acer · November 29th, 2007, 02:24

ya i would get a 400fps instead of the stock 280fps (i think that is what it is dont quote me on that) and because of that i would have re-enforced gears
thats not the point, it doesnt matter what im going to do, i have my own opinion lol, im just wondering if anyone knows what version gearbox it is, so i know what parts to get for it

mateba · November 29th, 2007, 02:33

Sorry for so many posts

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Acer

ya im talking about the star m249 anyways, not the ca one, there is a plastic gear box and im going to get a metal one, i need to know what version the gear box is so i can get the right parts for it, does anyone know what version it is

I believe you can use the CA MB if you want. STAR makes drop-in plastic MBs for the CAs and they appear to be the same. PGC refers to them as V3S but mostly they are listed for the "m249 series" because no other AEG uses that design.

The Acer · November 29th, 2007, 02:36

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mateba · November 29th, 2007, 02:37

The STARs are one of the lightest M249s out there so I think you are doing yourself a favor in the long run. But, you know that after you spend money on the upgrades you'll be at or over the CAs price range, but I would not but a CA for its internals (the M249 MB being the exception). Does STAR ship with box mags, CA does. I think if you upgrade your STAR you'll be happy to have the best of both AEGs.

good luck

The Acer · November 29th, 2007, 02:44

thanks mateba, finally something that was had useful infomation

still i would like to know if i can uses version 2 parts or not

mateba · November 29th, 2007, 02:51

Sorry to hijack your post

Quote:

Originally Posted by mateba

I believe you can use the CA MB if you want. STAR makes drop-in plastic MBs for the CAs and they appear to be the same. PGC refers to them as V3S but mostly they are listed for the "m249 series" because no other AEG uses that design.

If it is a modified V3 then it'll take v2/3 parts.
The tappet plate is a Ver 2 and the spring guide is a Ver 2 as well and it has a CA short type motor.

Trader rating · November 29th, 2007, 02:57

I have upgraded the star249 gear box. First get wildmonkey metal gearbox for sure, polymer is shit, piston guide rail failed after 4000 rounds.

As for internals you can use any gear set you want, the stock gear set is pretty good though. The piston is V2/V3 however not every piston works, I tried a few systema ones and they were just a little too short and would get hung up on the side of the mechbox. (I used a VSS piston and piston head)

You can use a version 3 spring guide you just have to cut the sides down a bit (you will know what I mean when you go to install it.

Now the mechbox is long therefor you will loose 40-50fps off whatever spring you use (I'm using prometh 140 shooting about360fps)

Standard barrel so thats an easy thing to upgrade, the hop up rubber is shit, get a guarder one.

I havent changed cylindar and nozzle yet so I dont know what comparable version it is yet,

also install a mossfet

mateba · November 29th, 2007, 02:58

Dude, that sucked. I now understand what you were wondering. That thing doesn't have a version and there is no way to know what you have to put in it. I think its mostly ver 3.

jerryliang2k · November 29th, 2007, 11:25

The CA M249 uses V2/M4 gearbox parts. V2 tappet plate, M4 nozzle, Gears don't really matter, V2 Anti-reversal latch, short motor. The stock barrel is (i believe) m16 length. So if your going for cylinder upgrades, get one ported for that length.

The Acer · November 29th, 2007, 16:32

k thanks jerryliang2k and mateba, this is really helpful

Jayhad · November 29th, 2007, 16:56

Star's don't have a plastic mech box... it is poly carbonate a major difference.

Star uses it's own mechbox design so you can NOT just grab a v2 and drop it in there

PGC makes a CNC'd mechbox for the star but IMHO it's a waste of cash as the star boxes are pretty damned good

If you are so decieved that the Star is plastic and you can't work with that check WGC for the PGC mech box

Trader rating · November 29th, 2007, 17:18

WTF???

ThunderCactus · November 29th, 2007, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by mateba

How would you upgrade your M249, just durability (swap parts) and 60FPS (to ~400FPS)?

mateba

Sorry I couldn't reply sooner!
I put prometheus double torque up gears and piston to increase the durability to nearly unbreakable, systema 'silent' head set (cushions the blow better, maybe 10% quieter than standard piston heads). And she only shoots 350fps due to MAA rules, but if we still had to 400fps limit I'd only put it up to 370-380fps both for durability and for safety's sake of other people. I also cut my 8.4v 4200mah battery down to a 7.2v to keep the ROF around 800rpm.
When I first got it I had just shimmed the gears and put a 350fps spring in it, so I was just using a mini battery and getting an ROF around 800rpm. Well the mini ran out so I switched to my 8.4v 3000mah, ROF went up to about 1000rpm lol

Voodoo · November 29th, 2007, 20:17

got to say if your a small framed guy the star might be for u. I have only had 1 problem and it was my fault for being impatient with the trigger assembly. With a tightboar and a new hop up it shoots far and last long.

The Acer · November 30th, 2007, 02:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhad

Star's don't have a plastic mech box... it is poly carbonate a major difference.

Star uses it's own mechbox design so you can just grab a v2 and drop it in there

PGC makes a CNC'd mechbox for the star but IMHO it's a waste of cash as the star boxes are pretty damned good

If you are so decieved that the Star is plastic and you can't work with that check WGC for the PGC mech box

k thanks, this is what info i was looking for, thanks jayhad

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November 29th, 2007, 02:36	#18
The Acer Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leduc AB	-- Last edited by The Acer; November 29th, 2007 at 02:39.. Reason: didnt realize that there was a second page

November 29th, 2007, 11:25	#24
jerryliang2k Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississauga, ON	The CA M249 uses V2/M4 gearbox parts. V2 tappet plate, M4 nozzle, Gears don't really matter, V2 Anti-reversal latch, short motor. The stock barrel is (i believe) m16 length. So if your going for cylinder upgrades, get one ported for that length. __________________ Primary - CA M249 - Systema PTW Sidearms - KWA G18c - WE 1911

November 29th, 2007, 20:17	#29
Voodoo Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Calgary	got to say if your a small framed guy the star might be for u. I have only had 1 problem and it was my fault for being impatient with the trigger assembly. With a tightboar and a new hop up it shoots far and last long. __________________ why cant westcan come back?

November 29th, 2007, 02:24	#16
The Acer Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leduc AB	ya i would get a 400fps instead of the stock 280fps (i think that is what it is dont quote me on that) and because of that i would have re-enforced gears thats not the point, it doesnt matter what im going to do, i have my own opinion lol, im just wondering if anyone knows what version gearbox it is, so i know what parts to get for it

November 29th, 2007, 02:37	#19
mateba Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama, USA	The STARs are one of the lightest M249s out there so I think you are doing yourself a favor in the long run. But, you know that after you spend money on the upgrades you'll be at or over the CAs price range, but I would not but a CA for its internals (the M249 MB being the exception). Does STAR ship with box mags, CA does. I think if you upgrade your STAR you'll be happy to have the best of both AEGs. good luck

November 29th, 2007, 02:44	#20
The Acer Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leduc AB	thanks mateba, finally something that was had useful infomation still i would like to know if i can uses version 2 parts or not

November 29th, 2007, 02:57	#22
scooby Guest Trader rating	I have upgraded the star249 gear box. First get wildmonkey metal gearbox for sure, polymer is shit, piston guide rail failed after 4000 rounds. As for internals you can use any gear set you want, the stock gear set is pretty good though. The piston is V2/V3 however not every piston works, I tried a few systema ones and they were just a little too short and would get hung up on the side of the mechbox. (I used a VSS piston and piston head) You can use a version 3 spring guide you just have to cut the sides down a bit (you will know what I mean when you go to install it. Now the mechbox is long therefor you will loose 40-50fps off whatever spring you use (I'm using prometh 140 shooting about360fps) Standard barrel so thats an easy thing to upgrade, the hop up rubber is shit, get a guarder one. I havent changed cylindar and nozzle yet so I dont know what comparable version it is yet, also install a mossfet

November 29th, 2007, 02:58	#23
mateba Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alabama, USA	Dude, that sucked. I now understand what you were wondering. That thing doesn't have a version and there is no way to know what you have to put in it. I think its mostly ver 3.

November 29th, 2007, 16:32	#25
The Acer Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leduc AB	k thanks jerryliang2k and mateba, this is really helpful

November 29th, 2007, 17:18	#27
scooby Guest Trader rating	WTF???

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