TM AK or TM M4A1?

[leblanc74]

Originally Posted by Mirado

hmm, well, ive made my decision

im going to go to my local field, and if they have either, ill try em out there then decide

...wow, I am empress...good decision.....

[Wilson]

Originally Posted by Mirado

...the TM AK 47, or the TM M4A1, and why?

Both.

[Andres]

Originally Posted by leblanc74

...wow, I am empress...good decision.....

And I am Charles of Whales!

[Azriel_Strife]

If you DO go with the M4 get the TM M4 S-System, it's infinitely more solid than the regular TM M4A1. Zero barrel wobble on the S-System because the rail reinforces everything, the gun is nearly bomb proof except the tabs and plastic stock.

The JG M4 S-system is a great gun too but you might wanna take her down right away and re-lube/re-shim the gears. They tend to do a lame job at the factory. After thet they shoot hard at 370-400FPS and they come with Classic Army hardened steel gears in a TM clone gearbox and they are VERY heavy/solid.

If you wanna go AK there really isn't anything wrong with them except that some of them have a loose front sight and some issues with the screws on the stock and fire selector switch coming lose. all easily fixed. You may wanna upgrade the gun too because I know I hate the feel of a light/plastic AK. In wich case it gets expensive, concider building a franken AK if you are familiar with how they are assembled. check my thread "Better AK than TM for less than $600" under the same area as this post.

any one of these 3 is a great choice for a first gun. Even the JG if you know someone that wants to work on the gearbox for an hour for you.

[Skladfin]

TM M4 wobbles so much it sucks

[namloot]

This is all subjective, but I like the way an AK47 feels and handles much better then an M4/M16. I recently bought a TM AK47 and am going to be upgrading the internals and the externals.

[DefCon 1]

go with the AK

it's a v.3,


it's much more reliable

[Ronan]

Originally Posted by DefCon 1

go with the AK

it's a v.3,


it's much more reliable

+1

Grab a Kraken + metal body + wood kit. For $400ish you can get a pretty nice gun.

[Mirado]

yea, thats what i might do, but is it something that somebody who is new to airsoft and knows absolutely nothing about the mechanics of the guns can do? I know very little about how an airsoft gun works (im reading stuff 'bout them every day). Is it complicated?

[Dicey]

Not really, mate. Disassembling an AK is quite easy, take a look at the videos that www.mechbox.com has. They have videos on how to take down all the popular AEG models, and their Gearboxes.

[Crunchmeister]

I should add that I experienced no barrel wobble on my TM M4A1. It was a little wobbly when I first got it. Turned out the lug that attached the barrel to the body wasn't tightened completely. Once I tightened that, no problems whatsoever.

[dodger_me]

Ya i Cranked it down right when i got it and its been fine since, But eventually it will work loose. Thats why im buying a one piece outer barrel and metal body

[lykurgus]

the type of play you plan on doing should figure into it too i think,, if you are going to be playing alot of cqb you wont want a really long rifle like an m16a1,, the ak shold be ok for that,, but if you are going to be mostly outdoors the m16a1 shouldnt be a problem.

mostly find a gun you like then try to find the most reliable brand that makes it.

[McKee]

Originally Posted by lykurgus

the type of play you plan on doing should figure into it too i think,, if you are going to be playing alot of cqb you wont want a really long rifle like an m16a1,, the ak shold be ok for that,, but if you are going to be mostly outdoors the m16a1 shouldnt be a problem.

mostly find a gun you like then try to find the most reliable brand that makes it.

On the note of the A1 series, I find any armalite is easier to use in the field then an AK (dont get me wrong I LOVE the AK) because the magazines are just too damn long. If you're like me you spend a majority of the game on your belly crawling around trying not to get shot, and for that purpose the armalite with a 20rnd VN style mag is perfect. You can rest the pistol grip on the ground and still take aimed shots (where with an AK this is a difficult task) and it just generally is easier to manuever in these low positions. However like several others have mentioned, the AK can take a shit-kicking, its batteries last forever, and with a hicap you're basically a walking ammo factory. To each his own I guess.

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by lykurgus

the type of play you plan on doing should figure into it too i think,, if you are going to be playing alot of cqb you wont want a really long rifle like an m16a1,, the ak shold be ok for that,, but if you are going to be mostly outdoors the m16a1 shouldnt be a problem.

mostly find a gun you like then try to find the most reliable brand that makes it.

Actually, the OP asked about an M4A1, not an M16. The M4 is pretty versatile in that sense. Great for medium range outdoor use, but also nice and compact for CQB.