Glock 17

[manchovie]

Originally Posted by matt491

Is that coming from personal experience, kevorkian? Everything I've ever heard is don't use propane on ABS slides? Does TM use special ABS materials?

it'll run for a while on propane with the stock slide, haven't seen one break yet but they seem to pop off the rails if liquid propane shoots through it (upside down, lift too fast etc). i have, however seen ksc slides snap even when basically brand new. overall tm wins hands down in my opinion, you get great kick (really fast on the stock slide, kick is comparable on fmu sig226 and g17 with metal slide installed), crazy accuracy/range and a refined internals design. keep in mind the tm is much newer than the ksc's and how far gbb's have come in the meantime especially thanks to tm. also, some of the slides available for the tm are GORGEOUS. i had installed a pgc in black and a shooter's silver one to date and they are both amazing quality and have fantastic fit and feel.

[Tex]

somethings wrong with that c&p crap

"Metal inscribed serial number located on lower receiver below the front barrel also acts as a concealed safety."

I don't like airsoft only features in my glocks. KSC stuck with glock design.

"Where the Marui Glock 17 shines above the old guard KSC Glock 17 is in accuracy and distance"

I actually found it to fail there I was hoping it would follow the hicapa, sig and 1911 from TM but it just didn't. both my 19 and 17 KSC's outshot TM (maybe my tm was fubar)

TM glocks need to be field striped to change hop-up thats a - point there too.

The TM Glock would be rated ok/average
The KSC Glock would be rated great/best

and yes as stated above the 17 is the older gun and does not have the feel the 19 does

[Wilson]

I have the KSC G18C and love everything about it. Never misfeeds, always superbly accurate, great with propane. No complaints.

I'm sure the G17 would be the same deal.

[Styrak]

Just cause we're all talking about Glocks here, are any mags cross compatible? It sounds like no.

TM?
KJW?
KSC?

I have a KJW G23 and it's basically a TM clone, so I assume it would take TM mags, but what about KSC, etc? Anyone know the compatibility between these 3 companies?

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by Tex

TM glocks need to be field striped to change hop-up thats a - point there too.

And KSC Glocks need a stupid small tool that you can lose easily to adjust hopup. *rolls eyes*

KJW and TM Glocks FTW.

[Tex]

I have never used the stupid tool after the first time. I use my finger to change mine. whens the last time you lost one of them?

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by Tex

I have never used the stupid tool after the first time. I use my finger to change mine. whens the last time you lost one of them?

I haven't. I've never owned a KSC Glock for much time. I was just saying it's one more thing to lose that the other Glocks don't have, and it's small.

[Endymion]

Some owners' fingers simply aren't dextrous or sized properly enough to fit in the chamber of the KSC, so for them field stripping is still required unless they want to carry around that tool.

The argument is old and pointless. Use what feels best in your hands and makes you happy to shoot.

[Goodl2ussian]

I love my KSC glock 17...but yes...metal slide (mine came with one) and recoil spring...i have this problem as of late that the slide gets stuck and starts guzzlin out gas.

ive owned both a 19 and a 17 i love my 17 more...dunno why i just do

[KEVORKIAN]

Originally Posted by matt491

Is that coming from personal experience, kevorkian? Everything I've ever heard is don't use propane on ABS slides? Does TM use special ABS materials?

I've been at this sport for about a year and a half and I have spent a lot of money, bought a lot of guns, tinkered with this & that so yeah...I'd have to say what I have to say "IS" from personal experience! I wouldn't say a word otherwise!
I've never owned a can of duster, I'm a plumber with lots of propane to spare! Not every gbb I own is modified and they all get the same treatment...propane...propane...propane...and don't forget the silicon oil too!

DON'T believe everything you hear...the proof is in the pudding my friends!

[matt491]

Originally Posted by KEVORKIAN

I've been at this sport for about a year and a half and I have spent a lot of money, bought a lot of guns, tinkered with this & that so yeah...I'd have to say what I have to say "IS" from personal experience! I wouldn't say a word otherwise!
I've never owned a can of duster, I'm a plumber with lots of propane to spare! Not every gbb I own is modified and they all get the same treatment...propane...propane...propane...and don't forget the silicon oil too!

DON'T believe everything you hear...the proof is in the pudding my friends!

Chill, dude, I wasn't bustin' your balls or anything, it was a serious question! I'm interested in getting another glock and I'm thinkin' about gettin' a TM. Your info was good, sorry if I sounded snippy or somethin'. No hard feelin's

[KEVORKIAN]

Originally Posted by matt491

Chill, dude, I wasn't bustin' your balls or anything, it was a serious question! I'm interested in getting another glock and I'm thinkin' about gettin' a TM. Your info was good, sorry if I sounded snippy or somethin'. No hard feelin's

NO HARD FEELINGS !!...Sounded like you were calling me out !!!! It's been a rough day!

By the way, buy a TM Glock...

[BBS]

too bad KSC got a lawsuit a few years back for the Glock trademark thing or else the KSC glocks would look just as sexy as the TMs.
btw: i wouldn't mind going with either company's glock. both are proven to be excellent brands. they each have thri own pros and cons. but you wouldn't go wrong with either one.

[HaloSix4]

alright so ether one is fine maybe ill get both

[WhatTheWho]

Originally Posted by BBS

too bad KSC got a lawsuit a few years back for the Glock trademark thing or else the KSC glocks would look just as sexy as the TMs.

Still, the trademarks on the right side of a TM Glock frame aren't really authentic.