Tactical Force TF 11 (M11)

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by sortie39

so shit it is ,costs so many catridges!!especially when auto-shoot,its gona be exhausted even in a minite!!

Actually, in full auto, you can exhaust a CO2 cartridge in under 5 seconds. You can get 2 full mags out of a single powerlet.

[Coma]

Are these compatible with the standard green gas/propane mags? Those CO2 obominations are ugly as sin.

[sortie39]

i m sure thts not compatiable with KSC M11 mag!!!!

[Crunchmeister]

It's not compatible with KSC or HFC mags. The only mags I know are compatible are Crosman Uzi CO2 mags.

[Bob the Angry Potato]

Apparently it's Maruzen design... theoretically, couldn't Maruzen mags work?

[Dao]

Originally Posted by Bob the Angry Potato

Apparently it's Maruzen design... theoretically, couldn't Maruzen mags work?

Exactly, some reviews stated the TF 11 to be a clone of the Maruzen Micro Uzi/ M11 internals, so I'd think the compatible magazine would be this one here:
http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/ai...il?prodID=9342
The problem is trying to find one in stock

[grimreefer]

I don't think that magazine looks any better than the one that comes with the TF. It just needs a little work is all. First you gotta saw off the knob on the bottom. Then make a groove in the plug for the co2 powerlet (i used a hacksaw, a dremel would work too), give the whole thing a sanding and a coat of flat black and you're good to go.

[Coma]

vs.



There is quite a difference, really, aside from the knob on the bottom.

I'd also like the option of using the shorter mags so that the TF11 can fit into a standard holster a little easier.

[jamuke]

Hey Coma, are you talking about short mags for the TF mac 11. Where did you grab these?
I thought the Maruzen UZI was a green gas gun and the TF is co2, are the mags really interchangable?

[jamuke]

PS
I was age verified at Army Issue Surplus on Sunday and am just waiting for ASC,

[Coma]

Originally Posted by jamuke

Hey Coma, are you talking about short mags for the TF mac 11. Where did you grab these?
I thought the Maruzen UZI was a green gas gun and the TF is co2, are the mags really interchangable?

I'm asking that myself, it would be nice if someone with the appropriate gear would be able to check and make sure. CO2 or propane/GG will both work as a propellant.

[Crunchmeister]

Well, the HFC M11 is apparently based on the Maruzen design as well, and the mags don't even fit in this gun at all. I ordered one a while back to try it out, and it didn't work. If someone else can confirm that actual maruzen mags work, it would be great. Otherwise though, I think we're stuck with TF mags and CO2.

[jamuke]

N ever thoght that Co2 and green gas would be interchangable, I did think I saw short mags for the mc11 with co2 but I can't find the site again. Saw stock mags for about 45 USD, might as well just buy 2 guns from here at $110 or so.+ spray paint cost:0

[Bob the Angry Potato]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

Well, the HFC M11 is apparently based on the Maruzen design as well, and the mags don't even fit in this gun at all. I ordered one a while back to try it out, and it didn't work. If someone else can confirm that actual maruzen mags work, it would be great. Otherwise though, I think we're stuck with TF mags and CO2.

HFC's based on the KSC design, sorry to say.

[Kimbo]

How about a KSC silencer, anyone know if that will fit on one of these?