Sidearms

[TokyoSeven]

Originally Posted by safx

Those who haven't enough experience
don't see the need for a side arm / pistol
as a secondary. But if the battle gets
close and structures are involved you'll
quickly learn that a pistol can out
maneuver and AEG anytime.

Agreed, but initially a new player can better spend his money else where for the time being. Its definately undisputable the maneuverability of a pistol in tight situations, such as close quarters or tight brush, and of course a grabbing your pistol in most cases is faster than reloading.

[safx]

I some what agree, but if you develop
bad habits early, like running without
a sidearm, then you won't get that
valuable experience until later, and
many bad beats that could have been
avoided if your trusty sidearm was
available and used to being drawn.

Play with players that use side arms and
then try the opposite. See which you find
of more value, and fun.

[DENZILDON]

and a sidearm can also be an AEG. We have a player here who has a MP5 for a sidearm with a dropleg holster!

[Jimski]

my two cents:
I've had 2 revolvers, the TM one failed due to flimsiness, bad mechanics and leaks.

I've had one Hicapa (TM 5.1) I was quite satisfied with it, but it's hard to find extra mags and they do sometimes leak.

My second revolver (tanaka) is the most efficient for the following reasons:
-no blow back, so only one refill of gas gives you more than 50 rounds.
-because of that, it's relatively silent and VERY precise.
I've had many unexpected hits because of that precision.
-you don't have to carry extra magazines that will eventually leak or need some maintenance, and make your kit heavier.

you only have 12 rounds, and they're a bitch to reload but it's not too bad.

[Aegiis]

Best advice : There is a game this coming saturday (look here : http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=65413 )

Less than 1 hour drive from Montreal, come and have a look at our kits, and you can probably stay and talk all day with the organizers, and us players. Ask first though before coming. And there might even be an age verifier there, also ask for that.

Welcome the the wonderful, addictive world of airsoft.

[DENZILDON]

Originally Posted by Aegiis

Welcome the the wonderful, addictive world of airsoft.

Cheers to that!!

[FOX_111]

My very first sidearm was a USP tactical. It was not reliable enought. So I got a KJW M9. Again, I needed something even more reliable, since I'm a sniper and shooting people out close is not possible. So I finaly got a MK23 NBB. Now I trust it with my "life". Each time I pull it out, I know it will fire when I press the trigger.

All my other pistols where not that reliable, especially in cold temperature.

So my point is: You must thrust your backup/side arm. Because when you will need it, it will be a close situation. It has to work or your "dead". Pick a pistol that has proven itself. Having a full metal, ultra 7331 pistol is not always a good idea.

[Roughneck]

+1 to the Mk23 NBB.. I've only had it a few weeks but its a solid nail driver and dead silent. When the M249 is too loud and we need to be stealthy, nice to pull that out and get a few silent kills.

[sgtscarfy]

Not needed but very handy. Ive been using my TM1911 for quite some time now with zero fails. I know its plastic, for now... but its reliability is unsurpassed in my books. Some ppl swear by different brands and mine seems to be TM. In my short experience i have found no problems with my TM rifles or pistols where as CA never seems to work for me...

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by Jimski

I've had one Hicapa (TM 5.1) I was quite satisfied with it, but it's hard to find extra mags and they do sometimes leak.

A TM Hicapa is a very good choice for a quality sidearm.

Mags and parts are really easy to find though, don't know where you get that from.

[CDN_Stalker]

KSC Glock 19 has saved my ass in situations where I either got my MP5 "gun hit", or I had to shoot left handed (CAR style) around right corners, OR the best use of a pistol, when you heard and see a stream of BBs come at you and yo upull a Matrix thing and end up on your back, pull the sidearm and fire from the 'reverse prone' position, on your back and shooting at a target. Trust me, trying to get an AEG up to be able to use the sights is fucking slow and impossible while lying on your back, unless you just point and shoot. But some might whine it's blind firing, even though it isn't.

It's never let me down, and at times (like the Mill game I went to last month), my MP5 was only good for longer (past 100ft) ranges (although I did get a 120ft head shot on a guy with my G19......... no front sight), but over about 25 or so kills that indoor game, about 6 were from "sniping" with my MK23, about 5 were MP5, and all the rest were G19. Just because I know my gun very well and how to instinctively shoot it.

Guys that buy pistols just to complete the look annoy me. I'm very happy using GBB vs. AEG in the brush, indoors, but that has taken a lot of practice and shooting, and learning it how to use it both hands/one eye (part of CAR) for close in shit when it hits the fan. And I focus on drills at home with my Glocks (I say that because I own two KSC G19s....... ok, two Mk23, two MP5, two sniper rifles).

[Ktown Militia]

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker

KSC Glock 19 has saved my ass in situations where I either got my MP5 "gun hit", or I had to shoot left handed (CAR style) around right corners, and it's never let me down, and at times (like the Mill game I went to last month), my MP5 was only good for longer (past 100ft) ranges (although I did get a 120ft head shot on a guy with my G19......... no front sight), but over about 25 or so kills that indoor game, about 6 were from "sniping" with my MK23, about 5 were MP5, and all the rest were G19. Just because I know my gun very well and how to instinctively shoot it.

Guys that buy pistols just to complete the look annoy me. I'm very happy using GBB vs. AEG in the brush, indoors, but that has taken a lot of practice and shooting, and learning it how to use it both hands/one eye (part of CAR) for close in shit when it hits the fan. And I focus on drills at home with my Glocks (I say that because I own two KSC G19s....... ok, two Mk23, two MP5, two sniper rifles).

What kind of drills do you do?

[CDN_Stalker]

Have a basic range set up in the basement, used to do a lot of transition drills between AEG (fire a burst, sling it, draw sidearm, use support pole as cover, etc.) or just the usual quickdraw instinctive stuff to set up my holster. But having never tried the CAR concept with my left hand, angled to line up the sights with my right eye, I totally fell in love with my G19 shooting low, around doorjams at the last Mill game, got at least 6 guys shooting that way. Minimal exposure, enter at a position that isn't expected, double tap those in the room and get out. Using my MP5 would have taken more time and gotten me shot. Just in, see target(s)target, front sight at reading focal distance, double tap and back out again. Very fast once you get the hang of it. Was surprised I could do it left handed also, that was a first!

[Donster]

im glad to see i made the right choice in buying my two pistols then.

[CDN_Stalker]

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

im glad to see i made the right choice in buying my two pistols then.

Helps to bug me a lot, doesn't it.