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Old November 24th, 2008, 19:49   #16
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I think this topic is insane.
Who says anyone from this site (airsofter or not) has violent or illegal intentions when they purchase an AEG.

You guys are turning into the very politicians that you're complaining about.

The prejudice is astounding.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 20:02   #17
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I think this topic is insane.
Who says anyone from this site (airsofter or not) has violent or illegal intentions when they purchase an AEG.

You guys are turning into the very politicians that you're complaining about.

The prejudice is astounding.
You missed the point. Most people express a opinion against selling airsoft in the open or to a person unrelated with the sport that does not purchase it with the intent of playing.

Noting political about it. It's just plain logic that other that playing, collecting or for media production (photo/movies), airsoft is of little use except for getting you in trouble.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 20:09   #18
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You missed the point. Most people express a opinion against selling airsoft in the open or to a person unrelated with the sport that does not purchase it with the intent of playing.

Noting political about it. It's just plain logic that other that playing, collecting or for media production (photo/movies), airsoft is of little use except for getting you in trouble.
Who am I (or we) to determine what it will be used for?

Does FutureShop screen you to make sure you are a programmer, not a hacker?

Does Canadian Tire screen you to make sure that camo Krylon isn't for graffiti?

Probably not.


So If I want to sell an AEG, is there a standard interview process you can point me to so I can determine (judge) if you're eligible to own such a device?
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Old November 24th, 2008, 20:14   #19
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Who am I (or we) to determine what it will be used for?

Does FutureShop screen you to make sure you are a programmer, not a hacker?

Does Canadian Tire screen you to make sure that camo Krylon isn't for graffiti?

Probably not.


So If I want to sell an AEG, is there a standard interview process you can point me to so I can determine (judge) if you're eligible to own such a device?
So are you suggesting to him to stand on the street corner with this thing, and a $400+ price tag attached to it?
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Old November 24th, 2008, 20:14   #20
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So If I want to sell an AEG, is there a standard interview process you can point me to so I can determine (judge) if you're eligible to own such a device?
You just proved me you have no judgment at all...
No hard feelings but selling a semi-prohibited item to anybody out there is not smart.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 20:15   #21
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Who says anyone from this site (airsofter or not) has violent or illegal intentions when they purchase an AEG.
Some evil thoughts came across my face when I picked up a gun from a local member. Same thing this past Friday when Duckman and I went to pick up another one.

We both had that grin from cheek to cheek with that slight glint of evil things we could do "on the airsoft field". Of course it also involved a lot of giddiness and outbursts of evil laughter, pause, more laughter, pause, serious bout of giggles, etc...
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you guys are wasting finger energy typing this cuz he isnt gonna budge

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Old November 24th, 2008, 20:19   #23
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You just proved me you have no judgment at all...
No hard feelings but selling a semi-prohibited item to anybody out there is not smart.
I have no judgement?

what did you guys have to do to buy your AEG's?

Did you go through some insane test's and such? Or did you get AV'd and bought online from ASC?

You must have instilled that natural trust between you and your retailer, right?

How did you guys prove you weren't going to something illegal?

Come on people! Answer me with something relevant. Don't dodge my queries. Tell me how you did it? Tell me how you screened the people who bought YOUR AEGs.

BTW.... I probably have most vested interest in this topic than anyone else.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 21:21   #24
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Age verification is not proof, nothing is. But it's the best thing we have, and it's very good at "it's job".
To be age verified at least you have to be a member of this site and meet up with someone in person.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 21:29   #25
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Age verification is not proof, nothing is. But it's the best thing we have, and it's very good at "it's job".
To be age verified at least you have to be a member of this site and meet up with someone in person.
+1

A system is better than no system.

Personally, I do not like to sell to people I haven't met. I also do not sell to those I find to be douche-like, I expect no less from the people I buy from, and I prefer to buy in person.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 21:30   #26
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I have no judgement?

what did you guys have to do to buy your AEG's?

Did you go through some insane test's and such? Or did you get AV'd and bought online from ASC?

You must have instilled that natural trust between you and your retailer, right?

How did you guys prove you weren't going to something illegal?

Come on people! Answer me with something relevant. Don't dodge my queries. Tell me how you did it? Tell me how you screened the people who bought YOUR AEGs.

BTW.... I probably have most vested interest in this topic than anyone else.
Most poeple here bought AEG from contact from this comunity because they did some research into the sport and wanted to play it.

If you sell online in an unrelated website, or in persone, you risk selling it to an opportunistic that does not intent on playing with the AEG in an organised and controled way and possibly getting in trouble and putting yet again a bad face on airsoft.

What's hard to understand about that?
If you don't consider that when selling your stuff outside the comunity, then yes, you have a bad judgement.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 21:31   #27
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I have no judgement?

what did you guys have to do to buy your AEG's?

Did you go through some insane test's and such? Or did you get AV'd and bought online from ASC?

You must have instilled that natural trust between you and your retailer, right?

How did you guys prove you weren't going to something illegal?

Come on people! Answer me with something relevant. Don't dodge my queries. Tell me how you did it? Tell me how you screened the people who bought YOUR AEGs.

BTW.... I probably have most vested interest in this topic than anyone else.
When I meet people to age verify them I sit down and talk to them about what they know about airsoft and where they intend on playing.

the AV process is a little bit of a screen... It keeps the people that "want a gat for street cred" to a minimum.. The AV system and the prices of airsoft in Canada are like a filter... Some kid who just wants a gun to threaten his friends isn't gonna go through the process of getting AV'd and then pay all that money, where it would be easier (and most of the time probably cheaper) to just purchase an illegally stolen REAL gun.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 21:45   #28
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Who am I (or we) to determine what it will be used for?

Does FutureShop screen you to make sure you are a programmer, not a hacker?

Does Canadian Tire screen you to make sure that camo Krylon isn't for graffiti?

Probably not.


So If I want to sell an AEG, is there a standard interview process you can point me to so I can determine (judge) if you're eligible to own such a device?
holly crap, your logic is so flawed it makes my head hurt! you are compairing a perfect replica of a gun to a computer..... WTF is wrong with you.... just cuz we are still able to play and use our airsoft doesn't make it legal... selling any illegal item is... well illegal i cant understand how you are comparing the two!
sell on ASC verified section or go to a local event, maybe some one will be interested!
ignor dragwindsor, he is ignorant

personal note: never sell dragwindsor a gun.....
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Old November 24th, 2008, 21:49   #29
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holly crap, your logic is so flawed it makes my head hurt! you are compairing a perfect replica of a gun to a computer..... WTF is wrong with you.... just cuz we are still able to play and use our airsoft doesn't make it legal... selling any illegal item is... well illegal i cant understand how you are comparing the two!
sell on ASC verified section or go to a local event, maybe some one will be interested!
ignor dragwindsor, he is ignorant

personal note: never sell dragwindsor a gun.....
dood you arent gonna convert his logic man spare your fingers the typing
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Old November 24th, 2008, 22:00   #30
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sell on ASC verified section or go to a local event, maybe some one will be interested!
ignor dragwindsor, he is ignorant

personal note: never sell dragwindsor a gun.....
I'm pretty sure I won't be needing your services anytime soon.

I'm just saying that NOBODY can judge a persons intent. And obviously you don't sell to people with known issues, or under-agers.

As for Amos's comment. It's not your job to do any of that. Your job is to verify AGE not character. : facepalm :
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