SERPA vs Safariland

[Amos]

Originally Posted by LUTNIT

I have lost all respect for you, your left handed...

Nothin' wrong with being a southpaw!

[mcguyver]

Originally Posted by The Saint

The issue with SERPA jamming isn't really important if the user is not the type to mount/use/rub it where it'd ingest a lot of dirt.

Which just so happens to be most airsoft players, me included.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by mcguyver

Which just so happens to be most airsoft players, me included.

Maybe it's the location... I've got mine on my chest and it's been there for a year... and it's just fine.

[The Saint]

I used to use a SERPA on a duty belt. I seldom find myself doing anything that gets it into a position where it can ingest dirt. Most people don't lie down and roll around here in Ontario, and our former primary field (FR) had a lot of grass.

New FR is a lot more sandy, though.

[Donster]

Originally Posted by Amos

I love my serpa

On the chest like that.. it takes up alot of space... but it keeps the gun nice and clean and it's a really easy draw/re-holster

how do you find it it when you are prone? also, how secure does the holster mesh with the MOLLE attachment device?

[Amos]

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

how do you find it it when you are prone? also, how secure does the holster mesh with the MOLLE attachment device?

It's crazy secure, doesn't shift around at all.

When I go prone, my face is still up looking down my gun, so that part of my chest is still raised.

[Danke]

Another vote on the chest. I can get to all the primary mags in the carrier, shoulder a rifle to my strong and weak sides, it's very solid with no bounce, and the only real downside I found was giving up the admin panel I had.

I'd say if you're going this route to pick a holster with the long top so the front sight is shrouded, that'll reduce the chance of you belting yourself in the face if you fall.

[LUTNIT]

But if I put the holster there, where do I fit my 8 spare pistol mags? My rig is totally full, drop legs open up a lot more room for me. I also don't care about smashing the gun up since it cost me essentially $125, WE Hi-Cappa. I have fallen on the holster and smashed the handle of the gun against concrete more times than I can count, still nothing but small scratches on it.

I tried it on my chest for one game but the one time I tried to draw it when I took a gun hit, my three point sling got caught in it and stuck it in handle so I couldn't get the gun out. I find drop legs are at the perfect height for my hand to just fall to my side and draw it.

If you ever get a SERPA leg panel, don't get the pressure fit pistol mag holders for it. I had two and while running I saw this thing come up in front of me, as it flew through the air I realized it was a spare mag flying out of the pressure fit holder.

[Ming_the_Merciless]

I used to use a SERPA on a duty belt. I seldom find myself doing anything that gets it into a position where it can ingest dirt.

I also I'm in the same position with my previous SERPA use. I've used the SERPA for both airsoft, and while CCLing, and never had the device jam on me, nor out of other users of the SERPA have I seen a documented case of failure. However, that said, Mr. Murphy might come knocking on my door soon....

Originally Posted by LUTNIT

But if I put the holster there, where do I fit my 8 spare pistol mags? My rig is totally full, drop legs open up a lot more room for me. I also don't care about smashing the gun up since it cost me essentially $125, WE Hi-Cappa. I have fallen on the holster and smashed the handle of the gun against concrete more times than I can count, still nothing but small scratches on it.

I tried it on my chest for one game but the one time I tried to draw it when I took a gun hit, my three point sling got caught in it and stuck it in handle so I couldn't get the gun out. I find drop legs are at the perfect height for my hand to just fall to my side and draw it.

If you ever get a SERPA leg panel, don't get the pressure fit pistol mag holders for it. I had two and while running I saw this thing come up in front of me, as it flew through the air I realized it was a spare mag flying out of the pressure fit holder.

Good point, with the difficulty transitioning, along with your specific need to have more real-estate available on your 2nd line set up. It highlights the axiom: what works for some people may not work for others.

Its critical we also remember the big picture that gear doesn't make a warrior which often airsofters often get a bad rep for. The important thing in the end is to make sure it works for you, consistency, builds confidence, and leads to greater effiency. Often people get into caliber debates for example, or in this case whats best with regards to gear, when they should be more worried about their skills/experience/level of training. I myself I'm guilty of it, get excited with a new high speed gizmo or gadget, I test and eval it, if it works great, if it doesn't I throw it in my "tactical-tool-box" to perhaps reconsider it later. I also know for the on and off airsofter that doesn't plan to go into harms way, this isn't an issue, but otherwise without training your just a laibility. You could have the must high-speed set up, eaxctly what Delta/Seals/or some Uber-death-touch-spec-ops group have, but without training, practice, and further thought your a lability.

If I teach you just how to take off, land and fire from an F-22 a thousand times and more, would you say your ready for aerial-combat?

Just food for thought

[Danke]

I have four pistol mag pouches on my weak side on the cumberbud of the carrier.

In my case I consider that as enough since it's a secondary and I have 11 rifle mags also. In fact some times I'll only carry 3 spare mags and put a set of folding pliers in the empty pouch. I've got space for 2 more but never felt the urge to go that far.

[dpvu]

My SERPA replica has been great for indoors. Better than any cordura holster out there. Outdoor, I've yet to test it. I can see dirt and grime possibly being issues but the retention is rock solid and the different mounting options is a big plus.

[MadMax]

Anything that would jam up a SERPA would do holy hell on your GBB anyways. Any super sandy game (ahem Rawdon) would make me leave the pistol at home. About halfway through the day I realized that my Detonics backup was a solid hunk of fine Japanese engineering and varying grades of sand.

I suppose it would be possible to go to ground and hit the index finger release on the SERPA because it's on the outside. If you're worried about that, and you still want to get a SERPA look at getting one of their new LVIII holsters which have both the usual index latch as well as an ingenious thumb break retention which looks really fast:

YouTube - BLACKHAWK Level III SERPA HOLSTER

Too bad they don't make one for the 1911...

[Danke]

Originally Posted by dpvu

My SERPA replica has been great for indoors. Better than any cordura holster out there. Outdoor, I've yet to test it. I can see dirt and grime possibly being issues but the retention is rock solid and the different mounting options is a big plus.

I've seen more than a few people scouring the local field for pistolas that ejected out of cordura holsters!

[dpvu]

Originally Posted by Danke

I've seen more than a few people scouring the local field for pistolas that ejected out of cordura holsters!

That's happened to me as well. Pistol lanyards all the way for me now. It's just a $15 investment to protect a $250+ gun.

[SHÖCK]

Can you guys point me in the right direction on where to get genuine serpa/safariland?

I've been to a few U.S. sites and they won't ship holsters to Canada. If I go for replica, where do I find the molle attachment plate such as Amos has?

Look for a serpa solution for P226 on vest.