A cansoft Masada/ACR could be availble! (a call to retailers)

[HaloSix4]

It looks pretty solid.

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by Comanche

I can't say the exact price it would be sold if a retailer was to pick it up, however it would be significantly lower that a G&G.

Not to be skeptical, but I'll believe it when I see it. Clear JG guns that are legal to import are going for a mere $50 or so less than the black versions, and still double the US price for the same gun. I'll be very surprised to see this gun going for any less than what the "established" prices the distributors are setting for other clear AEGs.

[Conker]

Crunchmeister, I understand your point, and that's why I did not write any specific price here. I have the unit price, which is quite low, but considering the fees, import taxes, profit margin from a canadian distributor and from the seller, I know this would also be significantly more than the unit price.

I'm contacting CAS to give them what I have got, then it's gonna be in their hands!

[Crunchmeister]

Well I tend to believe a lot of the price increase with these clear guns goes into the distributor's pockets, and not so much the 'fees' that people tended to blame the high cost of all black AEGs on. But hey, we'll see if these eventually become available to the public.

[mcguyver]

If minimum order is 1000 pieces, you won't see any in Canada.

The reason that MP5 and AR are out there in clear guns is that they are the 2 most popular guns, with the AR being the most popular by far. It has the most options and variants, and is the easiest to get gear for, by a longshot.

[Conker]

Originally Posted by mcguyver

If minimum order is 1000 pieces, you won't see any in Canada.

The reason that MP5 and AR are out there in clear guns is that they are the 2 most popular guns, with the AR being the most popular by far. It has the most options and variants, and is the easiest to get gear for, by a longshot.

That's why I'm quite... dubious, but I'm also sure that it could be possible to lower this number, but for doing that it would without any doubt be better if done by a company instead of a yet-to-be airsofter

[Crunchmeister]

I have to agree with that, actually. Selling 1000 ARs or MP5s isn't such a big stretch for a Canadian distributor. However, a 'specialized' gun like a Masada might be a harder sell. But hey, if CAS can pull it off, good for them. But I wouldn't count on it happening.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

so say wholesale they cost $75 each .. and they get it down to 500 minimum order .. so that means $37500 investment on an unknown gun .. so one guy that can't buy it , but who weeewry weewry wants one can get it.

[Conker]

Yeah, something along those lines.

Hey, I know it isn't simple or easy. I did not make a commitment to buy with said company or whatever. I just gathered some info to share it so CAS or whoever else can make their own decisions and actions based on this, knowing that there is a possibility somewhere.

[skalnok]

i would be wanting at least 2 lol

[kullwarrior]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

Not to be skeptical, but I'll believe it when I see it. Clear JG guns that are legal to import are going for a mere $50 or so less than the black versions, and still double the US price for the same gun. I'll be very surprised to see this gun going for any less than what the "established" prices the distributors are setting for other clear AEGs.

Pretty sure thats why theres barely any point so far to get clear ones, beside the fact you can take it to U.S. and back. If they convince high reowned brand of AEG to do it, it might pull through. but such guns are not cheap to start out with (TM, CA, G&P, VFC, Systema)

[Conker]

Just to say that I've emailed CAS about it and I'm waiting for their answer. Also, the distributor told me that it is possible to lower the min req. purchase, by negociating with the manufacturer themselves, but on that part I'll let a canadian retailer/distributor take care of this as they know beter than me what needs to be sorted out, how, etc.

[huang]

Does magpul allow masada in canada? I thought masada is only for asia.

[screwdriver]

i think if magpul caught you selling this youd be screwed, all the uk and european distributors of the hollywood/a&k version were threatened with copyright infringement and were withdrawn from sale very quickly .
this was all based just on the look of the gun as it had no trademarks on it and isnt even based on the current version.
it seems in asia the word copyright is missing from their language hence why they get away with it and no body else does

[Capt. T/O]

Originally Posted by screwdriver

i think if magpul caught you selling this youd be screwed, all the uk and european distributors of the hollywood/a&k version were threatened with copyright infringement and were withdrawn from sale very quickly .
this was all based just on the look of the gun as it had no trademarks on it and isnt even based on the current version.
it seems in asia the word copyright is missing from their language hence why they get away with it and no body else does

lets get something clear here, and stop spreading rumours that are unfounded.
1. a copyright only pertains to original works, ideas that can be expressed in various forms, whether written, spoken, broadcast etc. copyright rights do NOT pertain to actual objects
2. whether or not the word copyright exists in any language is irrelevant as its the idea of copyright protection (intellectual property rights in general) that provides the protection
3. each country requires registration/application for copyright, patent, trademark or design patent protection. just because you have one in Canada, it does not mean that you get the same protection in the US (unless you have one in the US as well). you must have or seek that protection in each country before you threaten infringement

so....

1. copyright protection does not extend to a physical product such as an AEG
2. magpul cannot threaten to sue you for copyright infringement for producing the Masada (they can threaten to sue you for a design patent infringement, trademark or even a patent infringement, if it exists)
Magpul can only sue for copyright infringment if someone was to use their logo/trademark without their permission and NOT because you copies their design
3. magpul may not have sought intellectual property protection in the Asian locales, and hence have no intellectual property rights in Asia and thus no attempts at civil action.... its not because the Asian countries do not have the word copyright (geez.... i wont even go there)