Kraken or DPMS M4A1

Crunchmeister · October 9th, 2009, 18:38

Yes. That's a rebranded JG. Several guys I play with have the non-clear version. It's not a JG clone. It IS a JG.

Amos · October 9th, 2009, 18:48

Problem with that is it is OLD JG.

All the internal plastic parts are made out of a brittle hard plastic, the piston head uses a retarded 3 piece design, the cylinder head is majorly prone to failure and the gears have an insanely high white metal / lead content.

Basing this on GEARBOX INTERNALS ONLY I would recommend the Kraken.

Marosu · October 9th, 2009, 19:02

Basing this on what you say, this m4 and a velocity arms custom m4 would be kinda the same price since the old JG gearbox is not that good. A complete gearbox would make the price the same (or even more considering external upgrades like r.i.s), no?

Crunchmeister · October 9th, 2009, 19:02

I've been inside a few of them, and they were standard JG parts. Maybe the clear ones are of a different grade. I am basing what I say on the non-clear version, which as far as I can tell, is identical to any other JG I've worked on.

Amos · October 9th, 2009, 19:05

Nah it didn't seem standard to me...

I just based a build off of a JG AK beta.. and the parts inside that thing were miles ahead of the parts inside that damn DPMS gun... But the DPMS gun I worked on was all black aswell..

Marosu · October 9th, 2009, 19:15

So buying one would be like picking a card? Maybe I'll get the good one, or not?

Amos · October 9th, 2009, 19:17

I'd got with one of the VA JG's.. They use the newer style gearbox, alot of the parts have been improved.

Marosu · October 9th, 2009, 19:23

Then again (sadly) money is missing...

So overall, m4 or ak?

Amos · October 9th, 2009, 19:28

When you're dealing with low end stuff, I'd say AK.

But when you're dealing with REAL airsoft, Personal preference.

Marosu · October 9th, 2009, 19:29

Thank you guys!

Crunchmeister · October 9th, 2009, 19:39

Yeah, there seems to be some uncertainty about that particular model. So perhaps the Kraken is the better option. Although I'd go for one of those VA models over those 2 choices.

Marosu · October 9th, 2009, 19:40

Anybody with good jugement would go for VA models

thank you again

Con Murder · October 10th, 2009, 05:24

DPMS is a real steel brand name and so many airsoft cloners make a model of it. VA may be better than G&G (or so popular opinion set them in my eyes) but the kraken is the AK variant that is at that price range. For me airsoft is more about the feel and so that is the primary thing for a buyer to do is hold some guns.

kalnaren · October 10th, 2009, 09:28

When your budget is so low, you're basically picking between a gun that might be crap and fail, and another gun that might be crap and fail.

In airsoft you get what you pay for. Even if you could get $350 up, you'd get a guaranteed much higher quality gun... Ie, one that you had a pretty good chance wasn't going to break within the first 1,000 rounds.

Marosu · October 10th, 2009, 10:06

I alredy know what i'll do. I won't buy a gun now, keep my 200$ Get a better job, get av'ed. Buy a nice AEG and quality gear since i'll have more money by then.

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October 9th, 2009, 18:38	#16
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	Yes. That's a rebranded JG. Several guys I play with have the non-clear version. It's not a JG clone. It IS a JG. __________________

October 9th, 2009, 18:48	#17
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	Problem with that is it is OLD JG. All the internal plastic parts are made out of a brittle hard plastic, the piston head uses a retarded 3 piece design, the cylinder head is majorly prone to failure and the gears have an insanely high white metal / lead content. Basing this on GEARBOX INTERNALS ONLY I would recommend the Kraken. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

October 9th, 2009, 19:02	#19
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	I've been inside a few of them, and they were standard JG parts. Maybe the clear ones are of a different grade. I am basing what I say on the non-clear version, which as far as I can tell, is identical to any other JG I've worked on. __________________

October 9th, 2009, 19:02	#18
Marosu Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009	Basing this on what you say, this m4 and a velocity arms custom m4 would be kinda the same price since the old JG gearbox is not that good. A complete gearbox would make the price the same (or even more considering external upgrades like r.i.s), no?

October 9th, 2009, 19:05	#20
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	Nah it didn't seem standard to me... I just based a build off of a JG AK beta.. and the parts inside that thing were miles ahead of the parts inside that damn DPMS gun... But the DPMS gun I worked on was all black aswell.. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

October 9th, 2009, 19:15	#21
Marosu Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009	So buying one would be like picking a card? Maybe I'll get the good one, or not?

October 9th, 2009, 19:17	#22
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	I'd got with one of the VA JG's.. They use the newer style gearbox, alot of the parts have been improved. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

October 9th, 2009, 19:23	#23
Marosu Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009	Then again (sadly) money is missing... So overall, m4 or ak?

October 9th, 2009, 19:28	#24
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	When you're dealing with low end stuff, I'd say AK. But when you're dealing with REAL airsoft, Personal preference. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

October 9th, 2009, 19:29	#25
Marosu Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009	Thank you guys!

October 9th, 2009, 19:39	#26
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	Yeah, there seems to be some uncertainty about that particular model. So perhaps the Kraken is the better option. Although I'd go for one of those VA models over those 2 choices. __________________

October 9th, 2009, 19:40	#27
Marosu Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009	Anybody with good jugement would go for VA models thank you again

October 10th, 2009, 05:24	#28
Con Murder Trader rating Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lethbridge Alberta Canada	DPMS is a real steel brand name and so many airsoft cloners make a model of it. VA may be better than G&G (or so popular opinion set them in my eyes) but the kraken is the AK variant that is at that price range. For me airsoft is more about the feel and so that is the primary thing for a buyer to do is hold some guns. __________________ Con Murder Dark Rhino L.A. Airsoft

October 10th, 2009, 10:06	#30
Marosu Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009	I alredy know what i'll do. I won't buy a gun now, keep my 200$ Get a better job, get av'ed. Buy a nice AEG and quality gear since i'll have more money by then.

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