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Old May 13th, 2010, 18:01   #31
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12 year old: Mom I want a G&G Airsoft Gun
Mom: *Looks* Gosh those look real
Son: Well look at this one.
Mom: OK I'll think about it.
Son: Can we get a can of flat black krylon fusion after soccer?
Mom: You have to pay.


If buyairsoft.ca really wanted to make airsoft for irresponsible kids, they would make it a non-gun shape, bright orange, and have it shoot foam darts. Oh wait...
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Old May 13th, 2010, 18:04   #32
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I looked quickly through the thread and I didn't see the fact that they mention they also include a black hand guard so the kids don't even have to paint it.

Whats in the Box?

* 1 x G&G PM4 Light
* 1 x 450 Round Hi-Cap Mag
* 1 x Battery (9.6V 1400 mah)
* 1 x Black Hand Guard
* 1 x Red Hand Guard
* 1 x 2-color LED Charger Included
* 1 x Polycarbonate "shatter proof" safety glasses Included
* 1 x 3000 Sample BB's
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Old May 13th, 2010, 18:07   #33
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I looked quickly through the thread and I didn't see the fact that they mention they also include a black hand guard so the kids don't even have to paint it.

Whats in the Box?

* 1 x G&G PM4 Light
* 1 x 450 Round Hi-Cap Mag
* 1 x Battery (9.6V 1400 mah)
* 1 x Black Hand Guard
* 1 x Red Hand Guard
* 1 x 2-color LED Charger Included
* 1 x Polycarbonate "shatter proof" safety glasses Included
* 1 x 3000 Sample BB's
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Old May 13th, 2010, 18:11   #34
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anyone notice that it says 280 FPS and then under velocity it says 320, also it has a blue and red versions, his and hers... Aww that is so cute now parents can buy their son and daughter these and let they go blind in the yard.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 04:00   #35
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Either way, black paint can cover all that crap.

It's okay, it's plastic, it will break down, making them want metal bodies, which non-AV's members can't get. Parts and crap break down, they won't be able to buy but will order overseas.

Ha, if kids do something stupid and get caught with it, they'll be scared enough to admit they bought it off the website making it a bigger investigation causing to sell to minors.

So retarded, anyways, I wonder who that secret squirrel is on ASC that works for them.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 07:52   #36
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You can buy non-cocking spring pistols at dollar stores, but if you really wanna shell out 200 bucks for something your kids gonna treat like crap/never use, then be my goddamn guest.

I live in an area of ontario where its a little rough, but all the kiddies think they need to carry knives around.
Airsoft guns aren't endangering kids any more than letting them carry that 5 dollar blade you bought them for camping. (even if you dont let them I assure you, they will do as they wish)
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Old May 14th, 2010, 08:36   #37
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this is no different form what happend to paintball with young gunz witch is a turnament grade of players under 16, this will hopefully do the same for airsoft that it did for paintball, I think that IF AND ONLY IF the age varified players mentor and help usher in a new age of player, this is airsofts only hope, this is not a new thing look at england were airsoft is SO much larger they still have those lime green coloured guns, There is a solution if somone under 18 gets one of thease, they should not be able to paint it, if they paint it they cant use it policy should be upheld by the game hosts. and iam sure they will have to run seperate under 18 restricted games anywase but same should apply, the field owners should not let them play if there guns are painted... other than that, this could be such a great move for the sport, getting parents and youths alike involved and on board, lets not all jump to crush progress yet is all iam getting at.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 12:11   #38
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There is no law that says 18 or over, a minor can hold a FAC. I had harder shooting pellet guns when I was kid so fair is fair.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 13:59   #39
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There is no law that says 18 or over, a minor can hold a FAC. I had harder shooting pellet guns when I was kid so fair is fair.
Grab your airsoft guns box. It say's it is for adults. 18 + has been on every gun I've bought and it has been the standard across Canada, it has been totally agreed apon that airguns are more dangerouse in action. Airsoft is dangerouse because of image, the effect is completed by its look but in action they are safe. So why can jonny in grade 6 have a pellet pistol airgun and not an m4a1? Well it is because the uninformed public has made a knee-jerk reaction to airsoft being the reason for a death, instead of holding people responsable for their actions.

Oh ya, if there is no law about it being for 18 plus why does crappy tire lock it all away and have you show ID????
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Grab your airsoft guns box. It say's it is for adults. 18 + has been on every gun I've bought and it has been the standard across Canada, it has been totally agreed apon that airguns are more dangerouse in action. Airsoft is dangerouse because of image, the effect is completed by its look but in action they are safe. So why can jonny in grade 6 have a pellet pistol airgun and not an m4a1? Well it is because the uninformed public has made a knee-jerk reaction to airsoft being the reason for a death, instead of holding people responsable for their actions.

Oh ya, if there is no law about it being for 18 plus why does crappy tire lock it all away and have you show ID????
its locked because of there policy, only in Ontario do you have to be 18+ at this point.
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Old May 14th, 2010, 14:34   #43
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There actually is no law (the 18+ on the box is only a suggestion) but pretty much everyone around the world agrees upon it and therefore it's been enacted as policy (much like ESRB and the "M" rating most stores have policies to sell to 17+ but it is not illegal (in a criminal sense) to sell to people under 17 just against most stores policies). Canadian Tire POLICY is to sell to 18+ but they are not breaking the law by selling to minors (except in Ontario) they are however breaking store policy and the employee may be disciplined or terminated.

PS: I don't believe minors can do that any more (FAC), I believe they must demonstrate they have a *need* for it to sustain themselves (and their family) through hunting (ie. in remote areas of Canada and north of 60 not in inner city/suburbs/exurbs where they have a "Minors License" and have to have an adult with a PAL supervise them while discharging firearms).

I'm not trying to justify it, I think what they're doing is bad (and defeats the general consensus that their frontal lobes have not developed to the point they can make logical/good choices) but I feel that we really need to define the difference between "store policy" and law.
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PS: I don't believe minors can do that any more (FAC), I believe they must demonstrate they have a *need* for it to sustain themselves (and their family) through hunting (ie. in remote areas of Canada and north of 60 not in inner city/suburbs/exurbs where they have a "Minors License" and have to have an adult with a PAL supervise them while discharging firearms).
You don't need to have to support your family to get a MFL if you did then how did i get one lol.
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Grab your airsoft guns box. It say's it is for adults. 18 + has been on every gun I've bought and it has been the standard across Canada, it has been totally agreed apon that airguns are more dangerouse in action. Airsoft is dangerouse because of image, the effect is completed by its look but in action they are safe. So why can jonny in grade 6 have a pellet pistol airgun and not an m4a1? Well it is because the uninformed public has made a knee-jerk reaction to airsoft being the reason for a death, instead of holding people responsable for their actions.

Oh ya, if there is no law about it being for 18 plus why does crappy tire lock it all away and have you show ID????
What's written on the box has no bearing in law whatsoever. That's a manufacturer's suggestion. It happens to be the stance of this community as well. And that too has no legal weight whatsoever.

The only province in Canada that has an age restriction on air guns of any kind is Ontario. You have to be 18+ to purchase the gun. That's it. There's no law saying a minor can't use it even without adult supervision. Now, most RESPONSIBLE stores across the country will hold any air gun under lock and key and only sell to adults. However, there's nothing preventing them from selling to a kid outside of Ontario. That's being irresponsible IMO, but not illegal.
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