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Old June 28th, 2010, 22:15   #31
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I'd be willing to buy these and shoot them. Would prefer a super heavy weight Bastard instead like a 0.80g-2.0gram BB. Preferably not metal since that is such a no no in Canada.
I know the market here is very limited for such types of ammo, but, BB Bastard now spans Canada, the US and shortly Europe. There are jurisdictions that would even use these in games - even at higher velocities, its still under ASTM F1776 for joule level paintball goggle penetration. Would I want to be tagged with one of these? Nope. Talk about hurt locker. But for accurized distance shooting or competition shooting, for sure.

I have a number of materials that form hardened crystal lattices that can be used to make various levels of weight. I'm experimenting with at least 3 more right now.
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Old June 28th, 2010, 22:15   #32
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Lead is bad, steel is fine.
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Old June 28th, 2010, 22:18   #33
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Most metals except perhaps aluminum are too dense and too heavy for an airsoft round. Aluminum and zinc are typical weight doping substances for heavier BBs, but they compromise material bonding (witness green .36s and tan .40s that behave like crayons), so I am not a fan of that material for adding weight.
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Old June 28th, 2010, 22:44   #34
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I would tend to think that those are ceramic. But I may be wrong.
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Old June 28th, 2010, 23:01   #35
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They are Depleted Uranium airsoft bb's.
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Old June 28th, 2010, 23:06   #36
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I'm guessing ceramic, given the crystalline form and the polish and perfection of the bb. This is really exciting news, Scarecrow. Keep raising the bar!!
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Old June 28th, 2010, 23:22   #37
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Old June 28th, 2010, 23:29   #38
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Experimenting you say...with three different weight compositions you say...
I wounder if adding incandescent dye into your mix is an option........for sniper weight tracer rounds (are they finally coming into existence??).

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Old June 29th, 2010, 00:57   #39
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.... reusable target rounds?
Yes indeed.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 01:54   #40
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I know the market here is very limited for such types of ammo, but, BB Bastard now spans Canada, the US and shortly Europe. There are jurisdictions that would even use these in games - even at higher velocities, its still under ASTM F1776 for joule level paintball goggle penetration. Would I want to be tagged with one of these? Nope. Talk about hurt locker. But for accurized distance shooting or competition shooting, for sure.

I have a number of materials that form hardened crystal lattices that can be used to make various levels of weight. I'm experimenting with at least 3 more right now.
There is a growing community of hardball players in Canada and the limits that we are playing are comparable with the Russian/norweigan limits 4-6joules. The issue is finding quality ammo at reasonable prices. and in most guns .43 is too light.

As for your target ammo. There are too many factors that affect the "accuracy" or an airsoft gun that is completely out of our control. It's not like we can go to an indoor range and zero the guns. Not many people have 200ft basements that they can accurately zero a gun. hell it's probably a challenge to find a windless environment at 100ft for most people.

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Field owners don't want aluminum/copper BB's being shot on their property and left there forever. Indoor facilities is a different matter. you can sweep the floors, wash the BB's and after inspecting them it MAY be possible to shoot them again.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 02:18   #41
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Experimenting you say...with three different weight compositions you say...
I wounder if adding incandescent dye into your mix is an option........for sniper weight tracer rounds (are they finally coming into existence??).

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+1 .30g tracer bbs, and just BB Bastard Tracer BBs in general would be awesome.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 02:24   #42
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I say .60 gram crack cocaine balls.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 02:46   #43
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I'd say they are made of the same material as Billiard balls

From ehow

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Since then, the manufacturing of billiard balls has seen many improvements. A billiard ball is now made out of unsaturated polyester resins and calcium carbonate reacted with an organic peroxide catalyst.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 07:32   #44
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Not many people have 200ft basements that they can accurately zero a gun. hell it's probably a challenge to find a windless environment at 100ft for most people.
Agreed, but you don't need even 100ft to improve basic accurization. Most AEGs barrels are so poorly centered and sights so off that even doing a basic accurization with the kit I'll provide will be a vast improvement.

But for those who do have access to a real steel gun range, there is plenty of distance available for far-distance accurization. I have access to several indoor and outdoor locations I can and have done accurization at.

It will be a limited appeal item, for sure, but enough to make it worthwhile in the long run. I've also not always done certain kinds of products in the BB business strictly on a supply-demand-profit basis. Some things are useful to have even if they are just low quantity items.

There is also something to be said for being a brand that sells the most accurized rounds in the world, and, pardon the pun, I aim for that.

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I'd say they are made of the same material as Billiard balls
No, not Eco friendly. Also that process does not scale down easily.

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The issue is finding quality ammo at reasonable prices. and in most guns .43 is too light.
Weights are rising, but its a volume game, and the other problem is materials. Past .30g you make ugly compromises using composite ingredients that work okay in lower ratios but when you ramp up the weight and the ratios change the properties of the end result BB become progressively less desirable.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 08:44   #45
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I say keep it up, the more products you develop the better and now that you are world wide you have a larger market to appeal to.
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