Good First Pistol?

[Kelseamac]

Probably going to go with the G17 ( always nice to have parts )
Would propane be bad for the gun or would it make just a small difference compared to duster?

[BioRage]

Originally Posted by Kelseamac

Probably going to go with the G17 ( always nice to have parts )
Would propane be bad for the gun or would it make just a small difference compared to duster?

TM are designed for duster. I run all my TMS on propane with no problem so far...

So... if things breaks, it's an excuse to buy new parts

[Kelseamac]

Okay, thanks

[Drakker]

Some people have had cracked TM Glock slides with propane, but replacement metal slides and springs sets are easily available and run between 100-150$. Because of the square shape, the Glock slide is not as impact resistant as the other TM plastic slides. With that said, they will usually last a while, its rare that they crack in the first few games. Some people have been using them with plastic slides for years.

[Kelseamac]

So if the slide were to break it would be relatively easy to replace?

[BioRage]

Originally Posted by Kelseamac

So if the slide were to break it would be relatively easy to replace?

Very simple.

It just costs you 100-200 USD depending on the brand. I ran my old old TM M&P9 last winter season on propane, had no problems. Sold it to a good friend and he dropped 800 bucks immediately upgrading it to tits.

[NoGear]

Originally Posted by Kelseamac

So if the slide were to break it would be relatively easy to replace?

yes, but when you get a metal slide, its a good idea to get a metal guide+ spring as well. You can also epoxy the slide if it starts to crack for whatever reason like if your short on cash and a game is coming up soon.

[MaybeStopCalling]

Originally Posted by NoGear

yes, but when you get a metal slide, its a good idea to get a metal guide+ spring as well. You can also epoxy the slide if it starts to crack for whatever reason like if your short on cash and a game is coming up soon.

The TM's already come with a metal guide and spring, which is an upgrade on the polymer unit on the actual Glock. Upgrades are nice, but in the end you just need a 150% spring on a metal slide.

[Kelseamac]

So, i've sorta decided what im going to get ( over time )

TM G17
PGC Metal Slide/Barrel Set Marui G17 BK
Guarder 150% Enhanced Recoil/Hammer Spring
GUARDER ORIGINAL FRAME FOR MARUI G17

Would these upgrades be the best for using GG? Mainly looking to make it last long on GG.

[odog654]

Yeah you look good on your plan in my opinion but I don't think you will need the frame for a while. In my opinion use it until something breaks, replace and use it again.

[MaybeStopCalling]

Originally Posted by odog654

Yeah you look good on your plan in my opinion but I don't think you will need the frame for a while. In my opinion use it until something breaks, replace and use it again.

If I think he's getting the frame from where he's getting it from... I.E. A Canadian retailer... it may be worth getting it now as resupply on that frame is erratic to say the least.

[waylander]

one thing I have noticed on my TM G17 is that the slide will pop off the back sometimes on propane. I've started to ensure I only use half cans of gas on it and not fill it for too long. Strange though that it's never happened on my G18c...

[Kelseamac]

How well would the TM G17 perform in 1-5°C, and if it doesn't work would a Co2 pistol perform better?

[QKLee11]

KJW MAGS SUCK, constant leaks and repairs...other then that the pistols works fine, I have KWA Pistols USP/M 9/M 93X...no magazine or maintenance problems

[NoGear]

Currently loving my Kwa M93r. It feels like it can take a beating, but ill still baby it though.