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gandar · March 1st, 2006, 03:02

Hmm.... That's pretty brutal, $100US with shipping basically, for the shirt, and you can probably pick up the pants in Canada for cheap.... I'd see what kind of price it'd be shipped with a group order and look into it... That's not very expensive at all IMO...

Aaidin · March 1st, 2006, 03:23

Considering the quality, etc...and the fact we could even get it in MARPAT or some other digital camo (we'd have to order the MARPAT ourselves and send it in) it's not a bad price. I'd say $250-$300 CAD each and we'd have ourselves jackets and pants...I'm ok with that but it can be expensive. Especially for a new-formed airsoft team.

Eddie · March 1st, 2006, 03:38

If you like the ACU cut contact ICE Tactical I believe they're in BC they can make you a set of BDUs for $200 (not sure if its CAN or US prices). They do Multicam, ACU, Cadpat TW & AR.

www.icetactical.com

Aaidin · March 1st, 2006, 03:48

Again, another great link, thank you Eddie.

Anyone got experience with multicam in southern BC? Coniferous forests, etc...?

Lerch · March 1st, 2006, 04:03

I haven't had first hand, but my TrgO tried some ACU on our last Ex and it...well...stuck out. It tended to look grey and blue throughout the forest we were in (Stave Lake).
I was wearing CADPAT and my 2i/c was in DPM and we were well hidden in the hills.

Lerch · March 1st, 2006, 04:07

I haven't had personal experience with Multicam, but my TrgO wore his set on our last Ex to Stave Lake. The colors went pretty well when he was moving through the thicker bush, but it was a little too light for when he got into the open trails, etc..
My opinion is that it'd be a damn great year-round camoflage for the FV area.

666 · March 1st, 2006, 04:09

Not sure about southern BC but gallery here has bunch of pics of guys from BC wearing multicam. Check events - BC section. Looks like there is actual multicam team there.

Trader rating · March 1st, 2006, 09:38

You're not going to find a single uniform that works in all environments. Sorry, hard truth.

WPT has 3 official uniforms, and each has it's time and place. Cadpat for summer and dead of winter, Marpat for spring / fall, and an indoors CQB setup. We also have plenty of fringe uniforms that get worn for opfor events or in places like the K-town "desert" field (RIP).

We're testing Multicam right now - I have senior members of the org who think it will be effective, but my eye says otherwise. We'll find out.

If you need something that will be effective in MOST of the environments you play in, get something like Marpat or even Woodland...its cheap and plentiful. When you start playing in other locations, or you find your uniform is not as efficient in different terrains, make your move then.

Farmboy · March 1st, 2006, 10:33

Aaidin

More to check out ---> http://www.oneshottactical.com/merch...tegory_Code=CL

I can do a team discount for you.

Like the guys have said though finding something that works year round and multiple enviroments isn't likely.

Multicam is great for spring and fall but there are better ones out there like Cadpat for summer.

Trader rating · March 1st, 2006, 14:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaidin

Considering the quality, etc...and the fact we could even get it in MARPAT or some other digital camo (we'd have to order the MARPAT ourselves and send it in) it's not a bad price. I'd say $250-$300 CAD each and we'd have ourselves jackets and pants...I'm ok with that but it can be expensive. Especially for a new-formed airsoft team.

Why would you have to send in MARPAT uniforms to be modified? They already come with pockets on the sleeves.

One thing to watch out for with the thigh rigs, chaffing.

Also, regarding the US Army an wearing ACU. Some units only wear ACU in garrison, but on FTXs they wear their BDUs, since BDUs blend in an are tougher than the ACUs.

Here's a couple pics of ACU in the woods/grassy areas
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2904/acuj9uk.jpg
https://peosoldier.army.mil/images/s...S_2696_low.jpg
https://peosoldier.army.mil/images/c...M_1730_low.jpg
http://www.peosoldier.army.mil/image...MOLLE_1753.jpg

Also, all that talk about needing a Urban camo is BS. Military does not use any type of urban camo. The USMC trialed a urban camo pattern in the late '90s, after that Ex it was never used again. In FIBUA, etc they wear their normal woodland or desert uniform, depending on location of the training area. In theatre its all DCU an ACU for Army an Desert MARPAT for the Marines.

When your doing FIBUA an kickin in doors, etc the best camo in the world isn't gonna help. The enemy will see you, there is nothing stealthy about fighting in doors. Camo is a not important, speed, aggression and teamwork is key.

combat-gear · March 1st, 2006, 14:08

We're about to do a run of our Advanced BDUs in TW MARPAT.

Hobey
icetactical.com

firemachine69 · March 1st, 2006, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaidin

Well, we need something that can be used indoors and in winter as well and CADPAT doesn't seem to do it for me. Also, I really should have mentioned that being unique would be nice (seeing as everyone and their dog has CADPAT). What was the problem with the ACU in the woods? Too much grey?

Also, forgive my ignorance, but could you expand on this slightly:

Quote:

I'd recemmend Woodland or DPM though. If you want a Digital Cam still, I'd go for MARPAT.

What's 'DPM' (am I going to be shot for asking that?). Also, isn't MARPAT something we'd end up wanting the Woodland and the Urban version of?

Some of my team really don't have tons of money so one decent all-around camo would be the best thing for us.

In that case, plain ol'school OD green.

firemachine69 · March 1st, 2006, 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaidin

It's perfect except for one little detail. The price. I can afford it, so can some other team members but it'd be a bitch to get new players their gear when some players can barely afford a gun...That's really, really, crappy. Seeing as that's pretty much perfect.

Then can very likely get cheap knock-offs off of Ebay.

When they either:

A) become gear whores
or
B) get serious
or
C)tear apart the cheap stuff

They'll go invest in quality stuff. Till then, it doesn't really matter, as long as it's pretty close.

It's funny how my airsoft stuff is generally of better quality then daily life "gear" (LSHD) I carry on my belt... I think the only "fast" thing is a key-loop I use to hang our Remote paddle for our battery-powered cart pusher. :lol:

F34N0R · March 1st, 2006, 14:35

We use Marpat woodland and Desert. 150$ for issue boonie hat, jacket and pant.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/gallery...7_original.jpg
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/gallery...7_original.jpg

Aaidin · March 2nd, 2006, 16:54

You guys have been amazingly helpful, so thanks for that.

Now, we seem to have it narrowed down to *Flecktarn (can't seem to find any canadian retailers who stock it), MARPAT TW, Multicam, CADPAT, or Woodlands...probably in that order. Thoughts when comparing the four. One thing one of our players brought up was how dry it's been getting here in the summers lately, rendering CADPAT less effective. I can't seem to find any pics of MARPAT in use really, especially not in terrain similar to here.

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March 1st, 2006, 03:02	#31
gandar Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sault Ste. Syberia, ON	Hmm.... That's pretty brutal, $100US with shipping basically, for the shirt, and you can probably pick up the pants in Canada for cheap.... I'd see what kind of price it'd be shipped with a group order and look into it... That's not very expensive at all IMO... __________________ Ubique Quo Fas et Gloria Ducunt Alternatively, I could just light you on fire. - Me

March 1st, 2006, 04:03	#35
Lerch * AV Status REVOKED * Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CFB Shilo, MB	I haven't had first hand, but my TrgO tried some ACU on our last Ex and it...well...stuck out. It tended to look grey and blue throughout the forest we were in (Stave Lake). I was wearing CADPAT and my 2i/c was in DPM and we were well hidden in the hills. __________________

March 1st, 2006, 04:07	#36
Lerch * AV Status REVOKED * Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CFB Shilo, MB	I haven't had personal experience with Multicam, but my TrgO wore his set on our last Ex to Stave Lake. The colors went pretty well when he was moving through the thicker bush, but it was a little too light for when he got into the open trails, etc.. My opinion is that it'd be a damn great year-round camoflage for the FV area. __________________

March 1st, 2006, 03:23	#32
Aaidin Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Abbotsford, BC	Considering the quality, etc...and the fact we could even get it in MARPAT or some other digital camo (we'd have to order the MARPAT ourselves and send it in) it's not a bad price. I'd say $250-$300 CAD each and we'd have ourselves jackets and pants...I'm ok with that but it can be expensive. Especially for a new-formed airsoft team.

March 1st, 2006, 03:38	#33
Eddie Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Surrey, BC	If you like the ACU cut contact ICE Tactical I believe they're in BC they can make you a set of BDUs for $200 (not sure if its CAN or US prices). They do Multicam, ACU, Cadpat TW & AR. www.icetactical.com

March 1st, 2006, 03:48	#34
Aaidin Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Abbotsford, BC	Again, another great link, thank you Eddie. Anyone got experience with multicam in southern BC? Coniferous forests, etc...?

March 1st, 2006, 04:09	#37
666 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Not sure about southern BC but gallery here has bunch of pics of guys from BC wearing multicam. Check events - BC section. Looks like there is actual multicam team there. __________________ Op Woodsman. Biggest WW2 event in Ontario.

March 1st, 2006, 09:38	#38
MadMorbius Guest Trader rating	You're not going to find a single uniform that works in all environments. Sorry, hard truth. WPT has 3 official uniforms, and each has it's time and place. Cadpat for summer and dead of winter, Marpat for spring / fall, and an indoors CQB setup. We also have plenty of fringe uniforms that get worn for opfor events or in places like the K-town "desert" field (RIP). We're testing Multicam right now - I have senior members of the org who think it will be effective, but my eye says otherwise. We'll find out. If you need something that will be effective in MOST of the environments you play in, get something like Marpat or even Woodland...its cheap and plentiful. When you start playing in other locations, or you find your uniform is not as efficient in different terrains, make your move then.

March 1st, 2006, 10:33	#39
Farmboy Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Trenton Area	Aaidin More to check out ---> http://www.oneshottactical.com/merch...tegory_Code=CL I can do a team discount for you. Like the guys have said though finding something that works year round and multiple enviroments isn't likely. Multicam is great for spring and fall but there are better ones out there like Cadpat for summer. __________________ Official Merchant of War. Exclusive Canadian Distributor for Blue Force Gear, Knights Armament, Rainier Arms, High Ground, Battle Comp, Multitasker and more! http://oneshottactical.com/ One Shot Tactical Inc.

March 1st, 2006, 14:08	#41
combat-gear Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver BC	MARPAT uniforms We're about to do a run of our Advanced BDUs in TW MARPAT. Hobey icetactical.com

March 1st, 2006, 14:35	#44
F34N0R Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Saint-Georges, QC	We use Marpat woodland and Desert. 150$ for issue boonie hat, jacket and pant. http://www.airsoftcanada.com/gallery...7_original.jpg http://www.airsoftcanada.com/gallery...7_original.jpg __________________ WAR-THUG CORP.

March 2nd, 2006, 16:54	#45
Aaidin Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Abbotsford, BC	You guys have been amazingly helpful, so thanks for that. Now, we seem to have it narrowed down to *Flecktarn (can't seem to find any canadian retailers who stock it), MARPAT TW, Multicam, CADPAT, or Woodlands...probably in that order. Thoughts when comparing the four. One thing one of our players brought up was how dry it's been getting here in the summers lately, rendering CADPAT less effective. I can't seem to find any pics of MARPAT in use really, especially not in terrain similar to here.

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