How to make an Airsoft Frag Grenade

[Slick]

We all know the laws in Canada thank you. Theres really no reason for you to have to point out the obvious.

I think Koopas point is that if you dont play airsoft theres no reason for you to come in here and tell us if we should or shouldnt be using these at our games. Perhaps you might want to fight for the law a little closer to your home. Like stand on your street and yell at people who dont use the pedestrian crosswalks. Because J walking is illegal.

[Krieg]

Originally Posted by Amos

The grenades that the Kameradschaft have are completely illegal unless they are constructed by a licensed pyrotechnic...

1. Firecrackers are illegal in Canada
2. Adding "Shrapnel" to any explosive device... Lol Do I even have to mention it?

Originally Posted by Koopa

Wow, another chairsofter with an opinion. Then again its ASC where actual players are minorities.

OMG.. carboard shrapnel!!! Also, we dont use firecrackers. They're airbursts with reduced power (50%) wrapped in corn and construction paper and cardboard.

And I dont have an agenda against chairsofters; I only hate those with opinions.

Originally Posted by VipaMave

Home-made explosives being illegal is not an opinion, its the law.

Take your fucking head out of your ass before calling anyone a chairsofter. Please do tell me where I've pretended to have any airsoft experience.

I've set off hundreds of dollars of fireworks and I don't think I need to play a game of airsoft to understand the laws regarding pyrotechnics.
-VM

Hmm he wasn't talking to you man don't take it to heart

hold on hold on hold on,Let me use your tone.
Sit the fuck down on your chair!

[CDN_Stalker]

The next time those fucking Warmongers have a cool idea, I'm keeping quiet about it. :roll:

[Naerah]

Im sorry i ask that here but it seems to be almost on topic. What about smokes grenades? Are they considered explosives? I admit i tried to build some(none worked very well and i stopped trying after the last chemical "x"/chemical "y" ignited in my hands) Im sure one of you airsofter and chairsofters can give me a quick answer. Anyway im sure it must be illegal to build them.

[CDN_Stalker]

Am sure smoke pyro is fine, consdering they are sold to people without a license. Then again, there are people here with the mentaltiy that airsoft should be made illegal as well, so I'd say you won't get a 100% solid answer.

[Koopa]

Originally Posted by VipaMave

Take your fucking head out of your ass

Wow. Now you're directly swearing at me. Not a good move in my opinion considering I have remained professional in my responses (and the last wasn't even directed at you). You can probably now forget playing at any large MilSim games that use non-conventional airsoft weapons (i.e. Muskoka, Quickpass)

Should this topic exist? No, its not right to advocate the building of pyrotechnic items
But all of these "Noobs" didn't have to jump in and yap about what they learned in high-school law classes and etc. when people we're discussing what has been done at games and other events. Report the post/thread to a mod next time and let them decide.

[malachite]

ok having my pyrotechnics licence.. i can say that making an explosive with any form of shrapnel (bbs..ect) or making your own explosives or altering an explosive.. is illegal

but if ppl want to go off and build/alter some pyrotechnic.. its no skin off my back cause it will be them breaking the law..

smoke can be bought from marine supplie stores and some firework companies but check with feild admins before using

explosives are dangerous.. the stuff you see in movies are under extreme controled conditions.. they are not just throwing explosives randomly.
they usualy throw a dud then have a pre made flash pot ready to blow

and that ringing sound when the !!CRACK!! happens it is the last sound those cells in your ear hear as they frequently die afterwards from the shock, so even tho it seams nothing bad has happend it has done some damage.

i personaly dont like the thought of having some joe blow home made frag granade powered by an illegal pyrotechnic..

i figure if you want a frag granade just buy one of the gas powered ones
just like the claymores or at mines they have out now

just my 2 cents

[Naerah]

Originally Posted by malachite

ok having my pyrotechnics licence.. i can say that making an explosive with any form of shrapnel (bbs..ect) or making your own explosives or altering an explosive.. is illegal

smoke can be bought from marine supplie stores and some firework companies but check with feild admins before using

Thx for the info i didnt know they were actually selling that in shops. I still cant find if its illegal to MAKE them, and yeah before using one at a game im gonna ask, its common sence.

[Slick]

Originally Posted by malachite

ok having my pyrotechnics licence.. i can say that making an explosive with any form of shrapnel (bbs..ect) or making your own explosives or altering an explosive.. is illegal

but if ppl want to go off and build/alter some pyrotechnic.. its no skin off my back cause it will be them breaking the law..

smoke can be bought from marine supplie stores and some firework companies but check with feild admins before using

explosives are dangerous.. the stuff you see in movies are under extreme controled conditions.. they are not just throwing explosives randomly.
they usualy throw a dud then have a pre made flash pot ready to blow

and that ringing sound when the !!CRACK!! happens it is the last sound those cells in your ear hear as they frequently die afterwards from the shock, so even tho it seams nothing bad has happend it has done some damage.

i personaly dont like the thought of having some joe blow home made frag granade powered by an illegal pyrotechnic..

i figure if you want a frag granade just buy one of the gas powered ones
just like the claymores or at mines they have out now

just my 2 cents

How many games have you been to?

[malachite]

ya... it does kinda suck..
i should have rephrased that.. making any pyrotechnics is illegal... unless you have a licence or a manufaturers licence.. which leads to a hell of a lot more issue...

some of the issues with smoke granades is the oxidizer
cause when melting the *chemicalX* with *chemicalY* it can spontaniously combust...and thats bad...

also if there is too much of the oxidizer it can potentually cause a rapid combustion and just be bad..

the smoke you can get from the marine supply stores is usualy orange (emergency smoke flares) and i believe it is HANDS that makes the smoke granades

good luck

about 5 games.. still a little new but i know my pyrotechnics

[surebet]

Originally Posted by Naerah

Im sorry i ask that here but it seems to be almost on topic. What about smokes grenades? Are they considered explosives? I admit i tried to build some(none worked very well and i stopped trying after the last sugar/black powder ignited in my hands) Im sure one of you airsofter and chairsofters can give me a quick answer. Anyway im sure it must be illegal to build them.

If you are going to do this, just be sure that you are equiped to combat a fire in case of an error of your part.

Outside is good.

Still illegal though!

Being a chairsofter, I will now promptly exit this thread before getting molested...

[tony123]

Originally Posted by Koopa

Also, we dont use firecrackers. They're airbursts

Care to explain?

Thanks

[Naerah]

Originally Posted by surebet

If you are going to do this, just be sure that you are equiped to combat a fire in case of an error of your part.

Yeah i know what you mean and im not gonna try again soon.

[wiinter]

although perhaps they are illegal, the grenades slick introduced looked pretty kool and seemed to explode at least better then the crappy paper ones :P
in a match, they could be useful, i wouldn't know from personal experience, as i've yet to play a match and haven't been able to find a good enough gun to buy (my standards are too high for Canadian tire, but my budget too low for Tokyo Marui) but the issue i would have a problem with, is potential hearing loss, this game may involve shooting each other, but it was not designed to be potentially dangerous to your health, that being said i realise that the actual guns can do much more damage, but they do not typically emit a loud enough bang to deafen or permanently damage the ears, but whatever the legal stand point, i believe that as long as they are not using grenades that can cause hearing loss, then there is nothing wrong with these grenades, as if you actually are seriously injured from these and they are not deafening, than it is your own fault for not being well enough equipped for the match.

[Razcal]

psst...you can buy fire crackers in canada....shop on the native reserve. I just bought a bunch last week man. They even sell those old "black cats"