China clone M4 GBBs coming

Mitchell12 · May 23rd, 2009, 00:27

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Originally Posted by ujiro

I'd be down with it. Brings another note of realism to everything

The neighbors won't think your sewing alot anymore.

How hot do they shoot?

ujiro · May 23rd, 2009, 00:35

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Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman

I would too. Except these GBBs shoot too hot.

Like they said though, just a few parts from RA Tech and its all good. Still would be cheaper than an Ino/WA/G&P

Mitchell12 · May 23rd, 2009, 00:38

How hot is too hot? Are they honestly cranking out THAT hot? If so can't like a lower flow valve fix that and reserve more gas or would that muck with the cycling? I imagine an AEG reducer would still work.

RacingManiac · May 23rd, 2009, 00:43

stock G&P shoots easily 380fps.....

I need to figureout how to adjust the old-type NPAS bolt on my RA Tech bolt...right now it shoots about the same as stock G&P...

As for the clones, you can say the internal is "steel", but steel comes in many grades and shitty steel is still shitty. Though its hard to say what G&P uses, or how much margin they make on these stuff, but I still believe you get what you pay for and something has to give when you are making the same thing and selling it for 1/2 the price....

Mitchell12 · May 23rd, 2009, 00:48

I wouldn't consider 380 too hot at all, Then again we have no CQB scene or anything here on the island. But I'm pretty sure everything here is pushing 400 or over it.

SDU_Phil · May 23rd, 2009, 01:36

i've skirmished several times with my GBB m4 already without incidence except for when my stock WA bolt catch busted and got wedged under the trigger.

skirmishing with a GBB just means you have to change your playing style a bit, especially if you like to spray and pray and carry 12 hi caps. shooting too hot is no longer an excuse with RA-Tech NPAS.

in the end it is up to the player, but GBBs are DEFINITELY skirmishable.

Amos · May 23rd, 2009, 02:01

Am I the only one that thinks the metal in the 1st picture looks like absolute garbage?

it looks like you'd need to wash your hands after handling that stuff..

NoGear · May 23rd, 2009, 02:34

i thought i was the only one. mabie its a proto type but they should at least smooth outh the body and add a few coats of paint

kullwarrior · May 23rd, 2009, 03:06

May I ask how many complaints were gonna get when China brand release their copy of copy m4?

WA M4 Release was filled with angry complaints which has been a year, and the upgrade & improve WA official custom (G&P WOC) still has quite a few complaints

Inokatsu aint much better, they had all the steel good finish but people were still complaining about the operation.

WE-Teich when they first copy 1911 design people were complaining about gas leaks crappy finish QC etc,

I would say add WA & WE together you get the China M4 gbb. Honestly I'm in favor of the idea where gas and bbs store differently, (you can put like gas into a 40mm style and use grenade launcher as storage for gas, easily a 20g CO2.

Shirley · May 23rd, 2009, 04:09

I wonder how loud it will be in CQB indoor.

NoGear · May 23rd, 2009, 04:27

mabie its the equvelent to a GBB x2 thats pretty loud epecialy if that cqb was concrete building

RacingManiac · May 23rd, 2009, 11:41

supposedly the price is $123 USD on Gunner's Airsoft....

I'd keep your hopes down for decent internal...

ILLusion · May 23rd, 2009, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchell12

The neighbors won't think your sewing alot anymore.

How hot do they shoot?

Inokatsu shoots 400fps out of the box. The original releases shot 450fps, but has since been tuned down.

The CQB-R I had pretty much hit 400fps on the dot. On the high side, it might pop a couple of shots out of a rested mag at 420fps, but it would quickly go down to 400fps.

Qlong · May 23rd, 2009, 23:52

Looks like the AGM is the first one out?

http://www.px-airsoft.com/showroom/m...63994203011190

Hmm.. $123, you could buy a WA mag for that

mcguyver · May 23rd, 2009, 23:58

I would expect that after one emptied the first mag with the giddyness (is that even a word?) of schoolgirl, then KABOOM!!, it wouldn't hurt so bad because it was cheap.

I had often thought of trying out a GBB M4, but after speaking with some folks who've had them for quite some time (the first guys in Canada to have a few of them), and hearing the ridiculous amount of maintenance required (weekends planned rebuilding them), I think I'll wait it out until a decent system become available.

Cheap Western Arms clones, well, enough said.

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May 23rd, 2009, 00:43	#34
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May 23rd, 2009, 01:36	#36
SDU_Phil Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alberta	i've skirmished several times with my GBB m4 already without incidence except for when my stock WA bolt catch busted and got wedged under the trigger. skirmishing with a GBB just means you have to change your playing style a bit, especially if you like to spray and pray and carry 12 hi caps. shooting too hot is no longer an excuse with RA-Tech NPAS. in the end it is up to the player, but GBBs are DEFINITELY skirmishable. __________________ 男兒一生要經過世上磨練共多少男兒一生要幾次做到失落與心焦我有無邊毅力捱盡困難考驗　立折披荊斬棘心裡更願永不折腰大丈夫一生要經過困難磨練共多少大丈夫一生要幾次落魄失望與心焦冷雨狂風歷盡人格更光耀　立地頂天男子心裡磊落不折腰

May 23rd, 2009, 02:01	#37
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	Am I the only one that thinks the metal in the 1st picture looks like absolute garbage? it looks like you'd need to wash your hands after handling that stuff.. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

May 23rd, 2009, 02:34	#38
NoGear likes being humiliated Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Surrey BC	i thought i was the only one. mabie its a proto type but they should at least smooth outh the body and add a few coats of paint

May 23rd, 2009, 03:06	#39
kullwarrior Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada	May I ask how many complaints were gonna get when China brand release their copy of copy m4? WA M4 Release was filled with angry complaints which has been a year, and the upgrade & improve WA official custom (G&P WOC) still has quite a few complaints Inokatsu aint much better, they had all the steel good finish but people were still complaining about the operation. WE-Teich when they first copy 1911 design people were complaining about gas leaks crappy finish QC etc, I would say add WA & WE together you get the China M4 gbb. Honestly I'm in favor of the idea where gas and bbs store differently, (you can put like gas into a 40mm style and use grenade launcher as storage for gas, easily a 20g CO2. __________________

May 23rd, 2009, 04:09	#40
Shirley A-56 aka Mr.Hitman Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto, ON	I wonder how loud it will be in CQB indoor. __________________ CANADIAN AIRSOFT PRACTICAL SHOOTING (CAPS) CAPS DIRECTOR # 0047

May 23rd, 2009, 04:27	#41
NoGear likes being humiliated Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Surrey BC	mabie its the equvelent to a GBB x2 thats pretty loud epecialy if that cqb was concrete building Last edited by NoGear; May 23rd, 2009 at 04:28.. Reason: last word wasn't added :P

May 23rd, 2009, 11:41	#42
RacingManiac Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada/US	supposedly the price is $123 USD on Gunner's Airsoft.... I'd keep your hopes down for decent internal... __________________ My Arnies' Album My PBase Album Custom Pistol Whore...

May 23rd, 2009, 23:52	#44
Qlong Division Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Scarborough, Ontario	Looks like the AGM is the first one out? http://www.px-airsoft.com/showroom/m...63994203011190 Hmm.. $123, you could buy a WA mag for that __________________ Weee!

May 23rd, 2009, 23:58	#45
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	I would expect that after one emptied the first mag with the giddyness (is that even a word?) of schoolgirl, then KABOOM!!, it wouldn't hurt so bad because it was cheap. I had often thought of trying out a GBB M4, but after speaking with some folks who've had them for quite some time (the first guys in Canada to have a few of them), and hearing the ridiculous amount of maintenance required (weekends planned rebuilding them), I think I'll wait it out until a decent system become available. Cheap Western Arms clones, well, enough said. __________________ Age verifier Northern Alberta Democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner. Freedom is the wolves limping away while the sheep reloads. Never confuse freedom with democracy.

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