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audi_bhoy · July 14th, 2011, 19:24

I'll buy that extra one from you Eeyore, when the time has come (2-3 weeks or so

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deadlydayne · July 14th, 2011, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eeyore

I ordered a spare one in case the first breaks, but after seeing the final product I don't think I'll need it . I will of course honor my commitment and purchase both if you have enough to all your orders. The second one will probably just lay around for some time before it needed, if ever.

Tom

Hahaha, Just fuckin with ya Eeyore, gotta get some laughs in or life becomes boring... But if youd like to save it for Audi that works too, When I get the parts just let me know your guys's plans and Ill ship however many parts accordingly.

audi_bhoy · July 15th, 2011, 00:41

I'll probably stick with Eeyore's second part, as he said he wanted to make sure he has a back-up but I don't see these breaking anytime soon.

deadlydayne · July 15th, 2011, 00:43

alrighty sounds good, Thanks for the confidence boost there =P So can anyone help me with this "Myth" Ive asked on other forums but no response
Ive heard the open Bolt scar can take aeg cut barrels if you put another notch on the side. Ever heard of this or any ideas on this?

KrashRider · July 15th, 2011, 00:52

I picked up an RA-Tech 6.01 open bolt barrel, it says double cut for AEG or open bolt. I don't have an AEG barrel to compare it against so I can't say for sure. I was going to crack open my 1911 and check that barrel but I haven't had time. I would like to know 100% that answer as well though.

deadlydayne · July 15th, 2011, 00:53

Can you take a picture of the Ra tech TBB, i have a tbb on one of my AEG's and I can compare.... sob im stupid... y dont i just go home and try it!? DUH.... will have answer tomorrow =P

Also got bored at work last night, figured Id post some pics for you guys to see what I do when Im bored....

Changed upper from Chrome to a mixed powder of Flat Black and Wrinkle black, to add just a little texture.

Close up

This Was the Initial design on the Left side of the reciever, cut into my test block.

This Is what I drew up for the Right side of the reciever (behind ejection port)

This is the left side of the upper...

Right side....

Bigger shot of right side...

Gun Tattoos anyone?

KrashRider · July 15th, 2011, 20:59

Just got the open bolt kit. On all the youtube vid's it shows all the parts. On my kit it comes with a large rubber spacer attached to the end of the spring retainer. Is this something new or did it always come with this? I never seen it in the vid's when they put an open bolt kit in.

I think with this rubber spacer it might have fixed the cracking/breaking of part 27 and 66.

I added and extra neoprene grommet on the spring as well to give an extra buffer to the blow back. Still as much kick as the closed bolt had even with the extra rubber. I have put 10 clips through zeroing the riffle and adjusting hop-up. Checked part 27 and 66 and no signs of cracking. I'm still not taking a chance though and going to put on deadly's 27 and the CNC 66.

Fox62 · July 15th, 2011, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrashRider

Just got the open bolt kit. On all the youtube vid's it shows all the parts. On my kit it comes with a large rubber spacer attached to the end of the spring retainer. Is this something new or did it always come with this? I never seen it in the vid's when they put an open bolt kit in.

I think with this rubber spacer it might have fixed the cracking/breaking of part 27 and 66.

I added and extra neoprene grommet on the spring as well to give an extra buffer to the blow back. Still as much kick as the closed bolt had even with the extra rubber. I have put 10 clips through zeroing the riffle and adjusting hop-up. Checked part 27 and 66 and no signs of cracking. I'm still not taking a chance though and going to put on deadly's 27 and the CNC 66.

Yeah, they added the rubber buffer to the gen 3 (I think?) Open Bolt SCARs, so it makes sense they updated their OB kit with it as well. Most of the people who've broken the part have it, though, so it's not of that much help.

Fox.

Eeyore · July 16th, 2011, 00:01

Hey Deadly, wanna machine me an aluminum upper receiver for a WE M4A1?

Ross · July 16th, 2011, 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrashRider

Just got the open bolt kit. On all the youtube vid's it shows all the parts. On my kit it comes with a large rubber spacer attached to the end of the spring retainer. Is this something new or did it always come with this? I never seen it in the vid's when they put an open bolt kit in.

I think with this rubber spacer it might have fixed the cracking/breaking of part 27 and 66.

I added and extra neoprene grommet on the spring as well to give an extra buffer to the blow back. Still as much kick as the closed bolt had even with the extra rubber. I have put 10 clips through zeroing the riffle and adjusting hop-up. Checked part 27 and 66 and no signs of cracking. I'm still not taking a chance though and going to put on deadly's 27 and the CNC 66.

I had a mouse pad glued to the end on mine. It definitively lengthened the time it took to break, but it still broke after a while.

KrashRider · July 17th, 2011, 03:16

Open bolt has seemed to fix the accuracy issues so far. Some people I play with have the WE M4 closed bolt. They report the same accuracy issues at about 100ft the bb will break right or left at random. This would indicate it is probably not only a hop-up issue but probably the loading and gas delivery system as well. The double stack feed and aggresive loading of the bb's might be causing minor bb damage effecting bb flight path. A harder bb might help but I have not tested this.

A suggestion was to try a silica bb and I was woundering if anyone has tried that on a closed bolt?

Ross · July 17th, 2011, 04:01

Open bolt hop up was a big relief for me. I would not want to use silica cause they are a no no at my local games. But I have heard that heavier bbs get more success.

dwinandabp · July 17th, 2011, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

Open bolt hop up was a big relief for me. I would not want to use silica cause they are a no no at my local games. But I have heard that heavier bbs get more success.

Ross,
have you tried KSC 0,3gr BBs? I always use it for my we scar and wa m4 and it can shoot further and accurate with my stock iron sight.
I can shot within 30-40meters distance until bb flight went down and it never went bananas

Ross · July 17th, 2011, 17:40

I have used .3 gram bbs with the closed bolt system. (not ksc though) It was better than .2s but overall performance was still bad. 30-40 meters is only 100 feet. With the open bolt and tight bore my range is closer to 200 feet. with .25s.

dwinandabp · July 17th, 2011, 18:04

wow, thats quite a range you got.
never had the chance to play in a bigger arena here, so the 30-40m were the estimated longest straight shot i ever made.
havent upgraded my barrel yet, but since you mentioned far better performance Im considering for an upgrade.
what inner barrel do you recommend?

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July 15th, 2011, 00:53	#501
deadlydayne Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan, USA	Can you take a picture of the Ra tech TBB, i have a tbb on one of my AEG's and I can compare.... sob im stupid... y dont i just go home and try it!? DUH.... will have answer tomorrow =P Also got bored at work last night, figured Id post some pics for you guys to see what I do when Im bored.... Changed upper from Chrome to a mixed powder of Flat Black and Wrinkle black, to add just a little texture. Close up This Was the Initial design on the Left side of the reciever, cut into my test block. This Is what I drew up for the Right side of the reciever (behind ejection port) This is the left side of the upper... Right side.... Bigger shot of right side... Gun Tattoos anyone? Last edited by deadlydayne; July 15th, 2011 at 07:51..

July 17th, 2011, 04:01	#507
Ross Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Winnipeg	Open bolt hop up was a big relief for me. I would not want to use silica cause they are a no no at my local games. But I have heard that heavier bbs get more success. __________________

July 17th, 2011, 17:40	#509
Ross Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Winnipeg	I have used .3 gram bbs with the closed bolt system. (not ksc though) It was better than .2s but overall performance was still bad. 30-40 meters is only 100 feet. With the open bolt and tight bore my range is closer to 200 feet. with .25s. __________________

July 14th, 2011, 19:24	#496
audi_bhoy Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Trois-Rivières	I'll buy that extra one from you Eeyore, when the time has come (2-3 weeks or so )

July 15th, 2011, 00:41	#498
audi_bhoy Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Trois-Rivières	I'll probably stick with Eeyore's second part, as he said he wanted to make sure he has a back-up but I don't see these breaking anytime soon.

July 15th, 2011, 00:43	#499
deadlydayne Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan, USA	alrighty sounds good, Thanks for the confidence boost there =P So can anyone help me with this "Myth" Ive asked on other forums but no response Ive heard the open Bolt scar can take aeg cut barrels if you put another notch on the side. Ever heard of this or any ideas on this?

July 15th, 2011, 00:52	#500
KrashRider Trader rating Join Date: May 2011 Location: Airdrie	I picked up an RA-Tech 6.01 open bolt barrel, it says double cut for AEG or open bolt. I don't have an AEG barrel to compare it against so I can't say for sure. I was going to crack open my 1911 and check that barrel but I haven't had time. I would like to know 100% that answer as well though.

July 15th, 2011, 20:59	#502
KrashRider Trader rating Join Date: May 2011 Location: Airdrie	Just got the open bolt kit. On all the youtube vid's it shows all the parts. On my kit it comes with a large rubber spacer attached to the end of the spring retainer. Is this something new or did it always come with this? I never seen it in the vid's when they put an open bolt kit in. I think with this rubber spacer it might have fixed the cracking/breaking of part 27 and 66. I added and extra neoprene grommet on the spring as well to give an extra buffer to the blow back. Still as much kick as the closed bolt had even with the extra rubber. I have put 10 clips through zeroing the riffle and adjusting hop-up. Checked part 27 and 66 and no signs of cracking. I'm still not taking a chance though and going to put on deadly's 27 and the CNC 66.

July 17th, 2011, 03:16	#506
KrashRider Trader rating Join Date: May 2011 Location: Airdrie	Open bolt has seemed to fix the accuracy issues so far. Some people I play with have the WE M4 closed bolt. They report the same accuracy issues at about 100ft the bb will break right or left at random. This would indicate it is probably not only a hop-up issue but probably the loading and gas delivery system as well. The double stack feed and aggresive loading of the bb's might be causing minor bb damage effecting bb flight path. A harder bb might help but I have not tested this. A suggestion was to try a silica bb and I was woundering if anyone has tried that on a closed bolt?

July 17th, 2011, 18:04	#510
dwinandabp Trader rating Join Date: May 2011 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia	wow, thats quite a range you got. never had the chance to play in a bigger arena here, so the 30-40m were the estimated longest straight shot i ever made. havent upgraded my barrel yet, but since you mentioned far better performance Im considering for an upgrade. what inner barrel do you recommend?

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