Bill C-21 to prohibit airsoft guns in canada

666 · February 17th, 2021, 20:04

I was taling about my comment on a post. There were people who were giving ideas and messages we added. I was jumping between FB and ASC. There were people who were talking about bad things on FB and I spoke with them...

bobotea · February 17th, 2021, 21:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottyfox

I?m going to call bullshit on this. There is no way that is a GC slide. Replete with grammatical errors and as the completely wrong GC wordmark.
Misinformation helps nobody.

sorry its just an auto translate of the other guys photo, since he didnt post the powerpoint i just used photo translate of the slide, the info matches up with the GC website anyway so not sure why it matters. Just thought it was obvious that it was auto translated, not trying to spread missinfo.

*Here i found the English slide on CGN happy now? https://ibb.co/CmBCGBB

Snowstorm45 · February 17th, 2021, 22:44

Oh goddammit. Figures they'd go and try to sneak something in like this. We already went through this crap not even a decade ago, just leave us alone.

Metalsynth · February 17th, 2021, 23:23

I don't speak often here but right now seems like a good time to get this ball going.

Where are you at in the rest of canada on legally registered associations and/or federations?

We have 3 legal bodies in Quebec right now.

Association des joueurs de paintball et airsoft du Quebec
Federations airsoft du quebec
Federation airsoft sportive du quebec

I am the vice president of the association.

If we ever want some sort of legal traction, we will need to get better organised than the way we are now as a country.

Let me be blunt, right now the situation in QC regarding the federations is really wonky and in my opinion not what we need right now.

The only viable option in my opinion is the ccfr to get this C-21 crap out of the way and get our shit together.

We are currently doing this very thing through our paintball counterpart but we need to also have airsoft on this ball.

So.... where are you at with this?

If you are interested in this option, reach me on fb so I can hook you up with the prez

https://www.facebook.com/vpajpaq.francoislemay.3

tvw · February 18th, 2021, 01:58

https://youtu.be/LtjlD8v2SZc

666 · February 18th, 2021, 15:45

Lawyer is explaining how C-21 will affect airsoft and it's not looking good. Apparently in order to keep whatever we already have we would need to have a license to possess prohibited device. License that simply does not exist.https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid...ature=youtu.be

Sash · February 18th, 2021, 16:24

Think who you are voting for next time the election comes up!

Sash · February 18th, 2021, 18:28

I second what @666 and @Metalsynth are saying.

Organizing airsofters into a federation of some sort is going to produce only a fart into a puddle of water.

Instead of passing the responsibility to businesses, fields, god, whoever.... everyone who cares about the sport must do the following:
1. Pick up your wallet,
2. go to CCFR web site: https://membership.firearmrights.ca/...ual_membership
3. become a member.

It is $40 that will be spent by an organization that had already shown its teeth to the government by launching a massive lawsuit against the OIC. They already have experience dealing with this issue, and if they fail all others will follow with the highest degree of probability.

It is only $40. Each one of us buys crazy expensive upgrades to our guns that cost a number of times more. If we do not win this battle, we'll not be able to use those expensive upgrades at all, besides shooting raccoons and squirrels in the backyard. (even then you risk losing your toy and not get compensated)

tvw · February 18th, 2021, 18:59

Joined the fight today. In the pic there is the pricing info for the CCFR.

TAKE NOTE!

Student memberships are $20 / HALF PRICE.

Family memberships are $60 which includes your spouse and up to 4 children.

TheToastmaster · February 18th, 2021, 19:09

I really didn't think it would take something like this bill to drag me back to feeling passionate about the sport, after so long away.

For those who are interested, there is a petition you can sign, as well as other discussed actions.

http://chng.it/2McXdk6BYM

Ivanov · February 18th, 2021, 19:16

Ian Runkle posted his legal analysis of the bill as it pertains to air Airsoft.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q2oIWs_h3Vc
Also here is the web page for the CCFR I strongly advise joining and donating.
https://firearmrights.ca/en/home/

ValaskaAirsoft · February 18th, 2021, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pockets

I guess we are just going to have to do FlintLock airsoft...

https://www.redwolfairsoft.com/sprin...pring-gun.html

There will be big demand for Redcoat outfits now.

Flintlocks shoot too fast, so they too are banned..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWdE...Xv3GmKo8wO%3A6

Dayton put up a video on House Gamers.

tvw · February 18th, 2021, 20:26

Ian Runkle Airsoft specific video.

https://youtu.be/q2oIWs_h3Vc

***LATE TO PARTY***

ValaskaAirsoft · February 18th, 2021, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by 666

Dude, I already said, try emailing them and see what happens because they all got bombarded over the years. I highly suspect emails with anything to do with our current words in them will get filtered out. Somebody tried sending out 2 today. Both bounced back. Politicians get tons of daily emails from gun owners. They just got used to it over the years and took measures.

I e-mailed every single member of the NDP caucus today, none were bounced back. Tomorrow I will be writing the Block, and then over the next week I will do 20-25 Liberal MP's a day, and then I will begin calling offices. The worst thing is to do nothing as a player.

666 · February 19th, 2021, 06:57

Sun posted an article. https://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...r-new-gun-bill

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February 17th, 2021, 20:04	#46
666 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario	I was taling about my comment on a post. There were people who were giving ideas and messages we added. I was jumping between FB and ASC. There were people who were talking about bad things on FB and I spoke with them... __________________ Op Woodsman. Biggest WW2 event in Ontario.

February 17th, 2021, 22:44	#48
Snowstorm45 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: BC, Canada	Oh goddammit. Figures they'd go and try to sneak something in like this. We already went through this crap not even a decade ago, just leave us alone. __________________ "Who enjoys, wins." - Sonora Kashima

February 17th, 2021, 23:23	#49
Metalsynth Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montreal	I don't speak often here but right now seems like a good time to get this ball going. Where are you at in the rest of canada on legally registered associations and/or federations? We have 3 legal bodies in Quebec right now. Association des joueurs de paintball et airsoft du Quebec Federations airsoft du quebec Federation airsoft sportive du quebec I am the vice president of the association. If we ever want some sort of legal traction, we will need to get better organised than the way we are now as a country. Let me be blunt, right now the situation in QC regarding the federations is really wonky and in my opinion not what we need right now. The only viable option in my opinion is the ccfr to get this C-21 crap out of the way and get our shit together. We are currently doing this very thing through our paintball counterpart but we need to also have airsoft on this ball. So.... where are you at with this? If you are interested in this option, reach me on fb so I can hook you up with the prez https://www.facebook.com/vpajpaq.francoislemay.3 __________________ Certified Level 2 BA Sniper Si ton épée est trop courte, allonge la d'un pas. ( Proverbe Hongrois )

February 18th, 2021, 01:58	#50
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February 18th, 2021, 15:45	#51
666 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Lawyer is explaining how C-21 will affect airsoft and it's not looking good. Apparently in order to keep whatever we already have we would need to have a license to possess prohibited device. License that simply does not exist.https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid...ature=youtu.be __________________ Op Woodsman. Biggest WW2 event in Ontario. Last edited by 666; February 18th, 2021 at 15:50..

February 18th, 2021, 16:24	#52
Sash Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: GTA	Think who you are voting for next time the election comes up!

February 18th, 2021, 18:28	#53
Sash Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: GTA	I second what @666 and @Metalsynth are saying. Organizing airsofters into a federation of some sort is going to produce only a fart into a puddle of water. Instead of passing the responsibility to businesses, fields, god, whoever.... everyone who cares about the sport must do the following: 1. Pick up your wallet, 2. go to CCFR web site: https://membership.firearmrights.ca/...ual_membership 3. become a member. It is $40 that will be spent by an organization that had already shown its teeth to the government by launching a massive lawsuit against the OIC. They already have experience dealing with this issue, and if they fail all others will follow with the highest degree of probability. It is only $40. Each one of us buys crazy expensive upgrades to our guns that cost a number of times more. If we do not win this battle, we'll not be able to use those expensive upgrades at all, besides shooting raccoons and squirrels in the backyard. (even then you risk losing your toy and not get compensated)

February 18th, 2021, 18:59	#54
tvw Trader rating Join Date: May 2015 Location: Regina,Sk	Joined the fight today. In the pic there is the pricing info for the CCFR. TAKE NOTE! Student memberships are $20 / HALF PRICE. Family memberships are $60 which includes your spouse and up to 4 children.

February 18th, 2021, 19:09	#55
TheToastmaster Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Winnipeg. In a hole.	I really didn't think it would take something like this bill to drag me back to feeling passionate about the sport, after so long away. For those who are interested, there is a petition you can sign, as well as other discussed actions. http://chng.it/2McXdk6BYM __________________ Toast

February 18th, 2021, 19:16	#56
Ivanov Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2010	Ian Runkle posted his legal analysis of the bill as it pertains to air Airsoft. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q2oIWs_h3Vc Also here is the web page for the CCFR I strongly advise joining and donating. https://firearmrights.ca/en/home/

February 18th, 2021, 20:26	#58
tvw Trader rating Join Date: May 2015 Location: Regina,Sk	Ian Runkle Airsoft specific video. https://youtu.be/q2oIWs_h3Vc *LATE TO PARTY* __________________ Living one day at a time.

February 19th, 2021, 06:57	#60
666 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Sun posted an article. https://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...r-new-gun-bill __________________ Op Woodsman. Biggest WW2 event in Ontario.

Bill C-21 to prohibit airsoft guns in canada

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