Real names on the forum?

ToRN · May 14th, 2006, 11:24

I already sign my first name (Nic) to about 1/2 my posts here, so I fully support the real names under the callsigns thing. I also agree that it should be kept to first names, and user-selectable, as in, you're choice to put it there or not.

Also, if a mod/admin feels the need, they can replace that tag with the one that the person has rightly deserved.

SINN · May 14th, 2006, 11:24

Don't forget fun things like applying for a job and your new potential company/client googles your name. Nothing like being cross referenced to tons of threads about shooting people.

Gerkraz · May 14th, 2006, 13:16

What we do here and what we do in the sport is neither illegal, nor is it morally reprehensible.

If people discriminate because of your hobbies then you bring it up with them, because it is unfair.

If people want to associate Philippe Enguehard with Airsoft, then I say go fo it, because this isn't an underground movement and I'm not ashamed of being a player, not would I keep it secret from anyone.

Oz · May 14th, 2006, 23:42

Sorry guys, I dont walk around town with a name tag on (ok, maby at games, but even that is a call sign or last name on a pack). Maby Im just old school, but if I want somebody knowing my name I'll introduce myself...

Drake · May 15th, 2006, 00:50

I voted dead against, and the reason why is because these forums are available for browsing to the public AND also spidered/archived various bots (Googling for "Drake airsoft" goes straight to my ASC profile on the first hit.) I have an uncommon last name, and I do have potential/clients looking up my name for work, etc., and this is not something I suddenly want to have to explain to a client (and potentially something that could cost me work).

And FF brought up a valid point, too.

Plus there's nothing stopping someone from registering with a fake name, and then posting something stupid. It's not the age-verified people making the stupid posts.

Plus wouldn't be legalities about that for the under 18 people?

Black_Orchid · May 15th, 2006, 01:14

I think it would be fine if it's optional and displayed in profiles only. If you just put your first name, there shouldn't be any way for someone to track you...unless you have an insanely unique name and live in a small town or something.

Vladthecossack · May 15th, 2006, 02:00

Well, I only ever grew up being called stupid, so I guess it doesn't matter much to me.

foxtail · May 15th, 2006, 10:55

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Originally Posted by Drake

Plus there's nothing stopping someone from registering with a fake name, and then posting something stupid. It's not the age-verified people making the stupid posts.

Plus wouldn't be legalities about that for the under 18 people?

Sounds like a shit load of more fucking red tape. What do you want next our DNA. How about I shit in a bucket and send it to you. Then you can make a clone.

Yes I am sounding bad right now because this is sounding more and more like the fucking politics of today and airsoft has enough politics as it is.

CDN_Stalker · May 15th, 2006, 11:25

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Originally Posted by firemachine69

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Originally Posted by Gryphon

I'm not comfortable giving out my personal info except to those I do business with. I certainly don't think this should be mandatory at all. If it goes that way, my name is John Doe. Or Joe Smith. Take your pick.

I get dibs on James Bond!

I got dibs on either "Jean Guy Rubber Butt" or "Hu Flung Poo". :salute:

Dracheous · May 15th, 2006, 13:41

Look it, there shouldn't be an issue of wether or not people should have to or not use their real name publicly on ASC. There is the option right now for people to have it there or not and thats a good thing. Why? Because there is this nifty little site called canada411.com where you could get phone numbers and all that off of names and general location. Why's that a bad thing? Say you have a feild and a bunch of noob underaged kids start calling you at outrageous hours in the night because they don't understand time zones for instance, is that point across already?

Another thing is that, with the issue on sales, people need to start to learn to remove themselves from world of Airsoft when entering the world of marketing. When your in the professional world of marketing where you buy, sell or trade items of value, one should use a more apporpriate professional name for this. So if you into a deal that is going through there is no harm in saying "Ma name is Bubba and you can get a hold of me here! or there or where ever the fuck I happen to let you know..."...

If people want to put their names under their callsign, cool. Personally I think of that CIA black list that matches up codenames to real names and how HIGHLY top secret that shits supposed to be? Well, what happens when we start waving our lil "top secret" black list around? ((If no one picks up on the sarcasm here... go to hell))

ToRN · May 15th, 2006, 14:36

not a problem for people like me who have an unlisted or cell phone number.

Wolfgang · May 15th, 2006, 18:56

I don't want to make my name public.
I'll give my name to those I do business with and thats it.

BC_K · May 15th, 2006, 19:03

I like the idea, but dislike it at the same time.

In a way ya it brings us all "closer together" if you will, tho I honestly feel, unless your a local player I associate with or I'm doing buy/sell/ect with you, you have no need to know whom I am, nor do I need to know who are you.

I'm sure there's a fair handful of people on here that share my view.

gandar · May 15th, 2006, 19:14

I think at the very most it should be first name, last initial under your S/N, or just your first name or something, but nothing more than that, there's no reason for people on here to know my first and last name. And as some people have already mentioned, I always sign my PMs with my first name anyway.

It's a good theory, but I don't think it should, or would fly. Besides, with a community this big, there're lots of repeats of names (like the Sean calculation), so having names on here would be a bit of an issue.

Besides, half the fun of this whole thing is having a 'callsign' and being some weekend warrior.... Like someone else mentioned, scammers will still scam, so I don't think it'll get rid of that either.

Brian McIlmoyle · May 15th, 2006, 19:23

But here is my perception.

I have belonged to other forums where Alias and Nicks are used... and it had a lot of the characteristics of this forum at times.. Flaming, insulting. bad deals... all of it..

Then it went to a real names only policy.. not all of the BS stopped but about 80% did. people were much more respectful, the mean age of forum members bounced up about a decade and the community matured into something much more productive. Instead of flame wars there was intelligent discourse.

Maybe because of the sensitive nature of this, we can meet somewhere in the middle.

I think a fully populated profile should be required. Fully Populated means.

Age, City, First name and last initial. What could possibly be the harm in providing this information?
Also being found with bogus information in your profile should be an instant Ban.

You can't have a community without some trust, and for many people who come here to be jerks... the hide behind their "callsigns" and sling rubbish.

if they had to stand in the public square and sling the same bs... they just may not bother to come in at all, which would be better for all of us.

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View Poll Results: Would you like to see real names used on this forum?
Definitely. Being anonymous doesn't help the community - we should be using real names.	29	7.97%
Yes, but only show it in my profile, or under my username - I want to keep my callsign!	105	28.85%
Yes, but only as an option - I'll post my real name if I feel comfortable sharing it publicly.	106	29.12%
Not really, but I'd go along with it.	32	8.79%
No, definitely not.	51	14.01%
Yes, but only my first name and initial of my last	41	11.26%
Voters: 364. You may not vote on this poll

May 14th, 2006, 11:24	#47
SINN Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto	Don't forget fun things like applying for a job and your new potential company/client googles your name. Nothing like being cross referenced to tons of threads about shooting people. __________________ MODT - Magnus Operator Development Team - tu fui ego eris

May 15th, 2006, 00:50	#50
Drake E-01 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, QC	I voted dead against, and the reason why is because these forums are available for browsing to the public AND also spidered/archived various bots (Googling for "Drake airsoft" goes straight to my ASC profile on the first hit.) I have an uncommon last name, and I do have potential/clients looking up my name for work, etc., and this is not something I suddenly want to have to explain to a client (and potentially something that could cost me work). And FF brought up a valid point, too. Plus there's nothing stopping someone from registering with a fake name, and then posting something stupid. It's not the age-verified people making the stupid posts. Plus wouldn't be legalities about that for the under 18 people? __________________

May 14th, 2006, 13:16	#48
Gerkraz Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland	What we do here and what we do in the sport is neither illegal, nor is it morally reprehensible. If people discriminate because of your hobbies then you bring it up with them, because it is unfair. If people want to associate Philippe Enguehard with Airsoft, then I say go fo it, because this isn't an underground movement and I'm not ashamed of being a player, not would I keep it secret from anyone.

May 14th, 2006, 23:42	#49
Oz Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vancouver	Sorry guys, I dont walk around town with a name tag on (ok, maby at games, but even that is a call sign or last name on a pack). Maby Im just old school, but if I want somebody knowing my name I'll introduce myself...

May 15th, 2006, 01:14	#51
Black_Orchid Trader rating Join Date: May 2005 Location: London, UK (Formerly Calgary, Alberta)	I think it would be fine if it's optional and displayed in profiles only. If you just put your first name, there shouldn't be any way for someone to track you...unless you have an insanely unique name and live in a small town or something. __________________ "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain

May 15th, 2006, 02:00	#52
Vladthecossack Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: A constant state of denial.	Well, I only ever grew up being called stupid, so I guess it doesn't matter much to me.

May 15th, 2006, 13:41	#55
Dracheous Lego Head Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Gatineau, that's right I'm in QUEBEC!	Look it, there shouldn't be an issue of wether or not people should have to or not use their real name publicly on ASC. There is the option right now for people to have it there or not and thats a good thing. Why? Because there is this nifty little site called canada411.com where you could get phone numbers and all that off of names and general location. Why's that a bad thing? Say you have a feild and a bunch of noob underaged kids start calling you at outrageous hours in the night because they don't understand time zones for instance, is that point across already? Another thing is that, with the issue on sales, people need to start to learn to remove themselves from world of Airsoft when entering the world of marketing. When your in the professional world of marketing where you buy, sell or trade items of value, one should use a more apporpriate professional name for this. So if you into a deal that is going through there is no harm in saying "Ma name is Bubba and you can get a hold of me here! or there or where ever the fuck I happen to let you know..."... If people want to put their names under their callsign, cool. Personally I think of that CIA black list that matches up codenames to real names and how HIGHLY top secret that shits supposed to be? Well, what happens when we start waving our lil "top secret" black list around? ((If no one picks up on the sarcasm here... go to hell))

May 15th, 2006, 18:56	#57
Wolfgang Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Montreal	I don't want to make my name public. I'll give my name to those I do business with and thats it. __________________

May 15th, 2006, 19:03	#58
BC_K Banned Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2004	I like the idea, but dislike it at the same time. In a way ya it brings us all "closer together" if you will, tho I honestly feel, unless your a local player I associate with or I'm doing buy/sell/ect with you, you have no need to know whom I am, nor do I need to know who are you. I'm sure there's a fair handful of people on here that share my view.

May 15th, 2006, 19:14	#59
gandar Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sault Ste. Syberia, ON	I think at the very most it should be first name, last initial under your S/N, or just your first name or something, but nothing more than that, there's no reason for people on here to know my first and last name. And as some people have already mentioned, I always sign my PMs with my first name anyway. It's a good theory, but I don't think it should, or would fly. Besides, with a community this big, there're lots of repeats of names (like the Sean calculation), so having names on here would be a bit of an issue. Besides, half the fun of this whole thing is having a 'callsign' and being some weekend warrior.... Like someone else mentioned, scammers will still scam, so I don't think it'll get rid of that either. __________________ Ubique Quo Fas et Gloria Ducunt Alternatively, I could just light you on fire. - Me

May 15th, 2006, 19:23	#60
Brian McIlmoyle 8=======D Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto	It's a tough call... But here is my perception. I have belonged to other forums where Alias and Nicks are used... and it had a lot of the characteristics of this forum at times.. Flaming, insulting. bad deals... all of it.. Then it went to a real names only policy.. not all of the BS stopped but about 80% did. people were much more respectful, the mean age of forum members bounced up about a decade and the community matured into something much more productive. Instead of flame wars there was intelligent discourse. Maybe because of the sensitive nature of this, we can meet somewhere in the middle. I think a fully populated profile should be required. Fully Populated means. Age, City, First name and last initial. What could possibly be the harm in providing this information? Also being found with bogus information in your profile should be an instant Ban. You can't have a community without some trust, and for many people who come here to be jerks... the hide behind their "callsigns" and sling rubbish. if they had to stand in the public square and sling the same bs... they just may not bother to come in at all, which would be better for all of us. __________________ Brian McIlmoyle TTAC3 Director CAPS Range Officer Toronto Downtown Age Verifier OPERATION WOODSMAN If the tongue could cut as the sword does, the dead would be infinite

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