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Old October 16th, 2007, 14:43   #46
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And it he doesn't do you summarily dismiss the negative consequences for either him as an individual, his friend, or the broader airsoft community?

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Old October 16th, 2007, 14:44   #47
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Who cares if he orders his gun from the US, if he does get it thats awesome !! Good for him !!
Ever thought about the consequences, or are you just being all offended?
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Old October 16th, 2007, 14:47   #48
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Ever thought about the consequences, or are you just being all offended?
Its his money...if he wants to loose it let him, we all warned him of the consequences.
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Old October 16th, 2007, 14:50   #49
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And the consequences to us? Like tougher Border rules? If you encourage him, you may eventually have to suffer too.
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Old October 16th, 2007, 14:51   #50
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and some direction... and we will bring him into the fold..

lets not jump on him yet.... we need new participants... and everyone gets a little excited at first..

then they start to realize the restrictions.. and that there is a whole community out there.... its a learning curve...
But to learn, you must start by listening, and then respecting, the advice. He's not.
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Old October 16th, 2007, 14:52   #51
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Well there is no stopping him, the way he see's it is -his friend did it, why cant he-

I dont think he is going to change his mind.
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Old October 16th, 2007, 16:23   #52
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Well there is no stopping him, the way he see's it is -his friend did it, why cant he-

I dont think he is going to change his mind.

maybe if we yell and bitch loud enough he will listen
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Old October 16th, 2007, 17:15   #53
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But to learn, you must start by listening, and then respecting, the advice. He's not.
I agree, but .... this happens all too often..

New kid: hey cool airsoft... I wanna get into this... but like, I know nothing so I'm going to ask all kinds of questions that have already been answered 1000 times.... but I don't know that because I just discovered this... and I'm all excited because I think its so cool.

Community: fuck off stoopid Noob!

New Kid: HuH? what did I do? I show up here and have some questions... Ok ok.. I guess I could have looked around a bit... but hey... I'm young and impatient... I want stuff now...so like, sorry so can you answer some of my questions.

Community: fuck off stoopid Noob!... oh and would you like a side of Ban with that?

New Kid: oh... ok I get it... you don't want me... fine I am now no longer listening to you.. in fact I think I will do exactly the opposite of what you say I should do... well sure thats immature... but heck I'm 17...going on 18...I'm not a boy.... I'm not a man... so I can get away with it... so how bout this..
Fuck all of you!

end rant...

although it is doubtless that there are a lot of people who we do not want to get involved in this community.. there are a lot that we do... I find it unfortunate that we do so little to figure out which is which.. and simply presume that every person who pops up here with questions is an idiot.

This place... fails as a entry point into the airsoft community..

I tell you one thing... If I treated every fresh faced Noob who shows up at TTAC3 the way people treat new people here... there would be a lot fewer new players in the community over the past 2 years..which means a lot fewer guns sold, gear sold, bbs sold, game fees paid.. and new teams formed.

New people make mistakes... new people say things that they should not.. they blunder.. and offend because they don't know the rules... it takes patience to bring them in a socialize them...

take the time to send the new person a PM and help them fit in... we need them.. well most of them.
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Old October 16th, 2007, 17:23   #54
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Well said, Brian. All too often, I see new comers jumped on for asking a question they may not know has already been answered. In all honesty, a forum is not the most user friendly interface, especially for people who are not as versed in the ways of the internet and computing as many people here seem to be.

Yes, there is a search function, but if you don't know precisely what you're looking for, it appears to not work very well. Yes, there is an FAQ section, but it covers a whole lot of things that some new people might not be familiar with at all. Lastly, it's true that ASC isn't the most inviting place for new comers. We should all help and make it such a place if we really do care about the direction the sport is going.

To all the trolls, flamethrowers and what have you, if you haven't got anything good to say, don't say anything at all. If your advice isn't taken by the person you've offered it to, don't take it personally. To everyone else, cheers
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Old October 16th, 2007, 18:53   #55
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There is the Newbie guide. It's well written, reasonably complete, and there for all to find...

I always suggest that new players really should read the information in that section (no search required). Few ever do.
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Old October 16th, 2007, 18:57   #56
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Hey Greylocks I forgot all about that I'm going go do a read over now.
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Old October 16th, 2007, 19:19   #57
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Someone explain to me why a ban is in order. Just because a fresh newb comes on here and asks a common green question gives NO reason for us to ban him.

If he doesn't understand, then help him understand. There's no point in keeping him in the dark.

Next time someone reports a newb post like this and requests a ban, I'm going to ban the person who reported it.
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Old October 16th, 2007, 19:29   #58
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Its his money...if he wants to loose it let him, we all warned him of the consequences.
I like the way this guy thinks.

Finally, some common sense
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Old October 16th, 2007, 19:29   #59
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I agree, but .... this happens all too often..

New kid: hey cool airsoft... I wanna get into this... but like, I know nothing so I'm going to ask all kinds of questions that have already been answered 1000 times.... but I don't know that because I just discovered this... and I'm all excited because I think its so cool.

Community: fuck off stoopid Noob!

New Kid: HuH? what did I do? I show up here and have some questions... Ok ok.. I guess I could have looked around a bit... but hey... I'm young and impatient... I want stuff now...so like, sorry so can you answer some of my questions.

Community: fuck off stoopid Noob!... oh and would you like a side of Ban with that?

New Kid: oh... ok I get it... you don't want me... fine I am now no longer listening to you.. in fact I think I will do exactly the opposite of what you say I should do... well sure thats immature... but heck I'm 17...going on 18...I'm not a boy.... I'm not a man... so I can get away with it... so how bout this..
Fuck all of you!

end rant...

although it is doubtless that there are a lot of people who we do not want to get involved in this community.. there are a lot that we do... I find it unfortunate that we do so little to figure out which is which.. and simply presume that every person who pops up here with questions is an idiot.

This place... fails as a entry point into the airsoft community..

I tell you one thing... If I treated every fresh faced Noob who shows up at TTAC3 the way people treat new people here... there would be a lot fewer new players in the community over the past 2 years..which means a lot fewer guns sold, gear sold, bbs sold, game fees paid.. and new teams formed.

New people make mistakes... new people say things that they should not.. they blunder.. and offend because they don't know the rules... it takes patience to bring them in a socialize them...

take the time to send the new person a PM and help them fit in... we need them.. well most of them.

that sums about EVERYTHING.. thats happened to me so far... there are a few people who right now have been REALLY helpful via PM and on this thread.. and i :salute: you
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Old October 16th, 2007, 19:33   #60
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o and to the people that are flaming me and calling me a noob for not reading... words over the internet dont mean anything to me .. keep trying i find it VERY amusing.

and yes i am still into airsoft.. and yes i will try to come to some meets meet some pple and try out the sport..
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