Sniper bullet for airsoft

[Auhydride]

Got my tokyo marui pro sniper from our customs today, the mechanism where the bb is loaded have enough space, so my guess is just a barrel and magazine change and maybe a bit of cutting on the hop up mechanism should be enough to fit longer rounds. Gotta talk to my friend when he is back to city.

[GreyFox132]

i can assume since the projectile doesn't roll down the barrel it should have some decent range as long as its kept completely centered in the barrel.

[Auhydride]

Sorry it took so long to get this started
but after weeks of waiting, and economical problems, my friend told me that the CNC shop produced around 50-70 prototypes today. Just to tell you we are still working on this topic.

[arman]

thats cool

[L473ncy]

This really piques my interest especially since I'm considering 3-4 years down the road I might get a sniper setup.

It would give me a huge advantage and make it easier to enter the sniper role.
I still like assaulting however I just want to switch out setup's to mix it up a bit.

So do you still need the modified barrel? I'm assuming that you need to load the mags like a real mag so a modified mag is a definite.

How much cap do you expect in a modified mag? 15 rounds? 30 rounds?

Also you'll probably have to manufacture these modified mags yourself so how much do you expect them to retail for? How much can we expect for a bag of BB's (ie. how much for 250 rounds, or 500 rounds?)

[Auhydride]

While discussing today, my friend said the bullets can be lighter than 0.2 grams, because you don't need extra weight when you have a rifled barrel to solve the wind problem, so yes, we will produce rifled barrels. The bullet design and weight can change after some testing though. Right now the bullet is around 1 cm long, with the usual bb diameter.
"Bullets will be around 8-10 US cents each, don't know about the gun kits, depends on the cost."
We designed the bullets to work with the magazines we will produce, but it's still too early to give information about them, but we will make sure they will hold enough rounds (something around 15-30 as you mentioned) and will be affordable.
Normally, people wouldn't want to spend 150$ on a kit that was manufactured in a city that is far away, without knowing the availability of the bullets in the future. We will keep this in mind.

[CDN_Stalker]

It's the weight that determines the range and wind-resistance, not the fact of smooth bore or rifled. Will explain later, I have to bail.

[FOX_111]

Stalker is right. The wind affect BBs like they where sailboat. The bigger and lighter they are, the more affected by wind they will be. Their speed is also a factor, the slower they go, the bigger the deviation will be. That's why 8mm sniper rifle are not that great, since the weight of the BB is limited as not to cause injuries.

Where this new round would shine, is if it was light enough to allow higer fps, so the lack of hopup is compensated by it's spinning effect to keep acuracy and range in check. The light BB will be affected by wind and loose a lot of it's energy, but since it's travelling fast, the wind won't have time to deviate it a lot.

I'm still wondering what kind of energy it will retain. and how much joules on impact they will exert.

[Donster]

he said the round will cost 8-10 cents. that is paintball costs. im just worried that this will sweep the airsoft world and make all my guns obsolete.

[Schlyder]

Originally Posted by m102404

The rifling mating surface design is sound...it's frequently used by conventional airgun pellets.

Rifling the barrel will be tough...tough to do really well and accurately without warping the barrel...but maybe a tensioned barrel design would help alleviate that issue.

To create a good airseal, to drive the pellet through/down the rifling and still leave "slop" for pellet variances might be tough with the hard plastics...but maybe a "softer" plastic would work.

Neat idea...

back in the good ol days, before airsoft, we had the occasional pellet gun wars, and ammo was bubble gum. You would have a wad of gum in your mouth, and you would take a little piece of it, ( a little smaller than a BB)
and place it in the barrel the same as a pellet. Worked good, although I can't recall what kind of range was effective.
Anyone with a pellet gun?, try it out. Would be interesting to hear what fps and range gum has. LOL

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by Auhydride

While discussing today, my friend said the bullets can be lighter than 0.2 grams, because you don't need extra weight when you have a rifled barrel to solve the wind problem, so yes, we will produce rifled barrels.

Yes you do need .2g weight or higher. Weight determines everything: range, accuracy.

If you have anything less than .2g it will be useless.

Hell I don't even bother using .2g outdoors.

[arcanuck]

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

he said the round will cost 8-10 cents. that is paintball costs. im just worried that this will sweep the airsoft world and make all my guns obsolete.

No worries on that; this will be banned from sale in Canada as it fits under the definition of a replica firearm. Darn Canada

I designed a 45 round drum magazine for .43 paintball ammo and I cannot legally sell it, and that's just because it holds more than 5 rds.

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[Skladfin]

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

he said the round will cost 8-10 cents. that is paintball costs. im just worried that this will sweep the airsoft world and make all my guns obsolete.

your thinking waaaaaaaaaaay too deep.

Only snipers are going to use it, and snipers rarely fire(absolute Max 100 rounds a day from what I've seen, usually more or so 30ish). So that would equal $10 per day at the most?

I use up like 1000~2000 rounds with my AEG in a day. And that's like $10~15 ish.

so in the end it all works out

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by arcanuck

No worries on that; this will be banned from sale in Canada as it fits under the definition of a replica firearm. Darn Canada

I designed a 45 round drum magazine for .43 paintball ammo and I cannot legally sell it.

That makes no sense.

[arcanuck]

All because it holds more than 5 rds. Paintballs at that.