Ares ms338 & ares ms700!

[SuperHog]

The MS338 has a CNCed receiver and with VSR10 internal upgrades, this Ares should be a good sniper.

[SuperHog]

Originally Posted by Arktic

This! I did that several times before I gave up. I rotated the piston fired of 3 or 4 round then slam fire, rotated the piston same thing then slam fire. The JG Piston is a much harder plastic and seems to be doing fine. Im off to a game today so Im just hoping it lasts the day...
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You many want to try the piston from the VFC ASW338LM. It is even harder material than the JG. I must have put over 800+ shots on it and no wear or slam fire. It looks to be very rigid fiberglass or carbon fiber filled plastic.

[nstahl.19]

Originally Posted by Hectic

I may just get one im just iffy on importing stuff hopin a loce retailer will get em.

Same here, will wait till spring comes around, hopefully there will be some in country by then.

[SuperHog]

Originally Posted by nstahl.19

Same here, will wait till spring comes around, hopefully there will be some in country by then.

Ares are readily available in Toronto area. Just ask your Ares dealer.

I want to make sure that the MS338 is VSR10 compatible. By the looks of the hop up unit and trigger group on the MS700, it does appear proprietary.

[Arktic]

I used the MS 700 in game today.

Worked pretty well besides being down on power from the tight fitting JG Piston. Only 420fps or so. The piston held up extremely well and worked flawlessly.

Range was decent, id say about 50-60m with 0.30s. The hop up was OK. some went perfectly straight and other would just fly off all over the place. maybe 7 of 10 shots were on target.

I did get some nice kills and one really nice precise head shot through a few buildings and out the other side.

The weight got to me a bit today. Being 30c also added to the factor. Be sure to have a strong lower back haha! Other than that it was really fun to play with and almost all the guys at the field had to have a look and fondle.

[Hectic]

Glad u enjoyed it. Hopefully the vsr cylender will fit that will adress the tight piston issue. Keep us posted.

[SuperHog]

Can you please weight it. Pot metal weighs more than CNC alum.

[Hectic]

Originally Posted by SuperHog

Can you please weight it. Pot metal weighs more than CNC alum.

The weight for both is on the ares website and on most of the retailstes.
The. 338 is 4700grams
The 700 is 4500grams
Also the video review explains that one is full CNC and the other is cast in places.

[nstahl.19]

I like the looks of the .338, understandable its slightly heavier then the 700 due to the upper and top rail not been hollowed and thinned out like the 700.

[SuperHog]

Still does not seem right. Pot metal is almost twice the weight of billet aluminum. Unless MS338 CNC version is just pot metal that has secondary milling on it. The price difference between the MS338 and MS700 is not much only $100. A fully machined receiver would cost a lot more than that and noticeable weight reduction.

[Arktic]

I'll weight it later and see what it actually weighs.

Here are some shots from the game yesterday.

[SuperHog]

Arktic, the MS338/MS700 will always look good over any M24 style sniper.

[kullwarrior]

Originally Posted by SuperHog

Still does not seem right. Pot metal is almost twice the weight of billet aluminum. Unless MS338 CNC version is just pot metal that has secondary milling on it. The price difference between the MS338 and MS700 is not much only $100. A fully machined receiver would cost a lot more than that and noticeable weight reduction.

Depends on what the material is.
Cast Aluminium can be light.
CNC Zinc-Pb-Al can be still quite heavy.

I suspect companies such as ARES uses cast aluminium for the main structure shape and CNC the finer detail.

[SuperHog]

Originally Posted by kullwarrior

Depends on what the material is.
Cast Aluminium can be light.
CNC Zinc-Pb-Al can be still quite heavy.

I suspect companies such as ARES uses cast aluminium for the main structure shape and CNC the finer detail.

I will believe it when I see one in person. Ares break promises all the time. Zshot said in the video that the MS338/MS700 will be VSR10 compatible, but now looking at Arktic's pics, not much is compatible. The Ares trigger box looks so crude compared to the JG one.

Do you really think Ares use high grade pot metal material?

[Hectic]

I think the question is can pot metal be high quality? I mean u can make it at home on yer stove lol
The first video review (evike i think) did say that one is cnc one is cast tho cnc doesnt mean it wont just be cnc out of cast.
Smaller mag, larger cut out above "ejection port" and by counting fhe cutouts in the rail a zlightly shorter rail on the 700 seems to be more then enough to make up for the weight difference so they are likely the same materials just a the 338 is machined after casting so itll have less or no seam lines and such thats prolly about it.
The more i look at it tho im starting to like the look(im more of an old school guy. I like vsr types not the "futureistic/modern stuff)