NEW ICS AK's Almost Here

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Interesting.

[Urist]

Just finished plinking with the one I bought yesterday....

It is sexy.

I don't know what I could add that hasn't already been covered elsewhere. There are some minor quirks but nothing to get overly worried about.

I couldn't get the hi-cap mags to feed consistantly, but that might be more from inexperience then anything else. They also pop out very easily, whether this is a good or bad thing I don't know yet. The TM mags were not near as easy to remove.

I got a 9.6V/1700mAh battery with it (hope the gear box holds up over time).

I've read so many differing opinions of what batteries to use in these guns, I don't know if the 9.6V is a good or bad thing in an ICS. Might get an 8.4V eventually.

[LUTNIT]

Cheaper than the MP5A4 I wanted, takes large batteries, isnt an M4/M16...gah

Just one question, does it take AK-47 mags? Or are they specific AK-74 mags?

[rileysault]

I beleive they do. I was reading a review on the gun at Arnies and the reviewer said he tested it with many brand name mags and they all worked fine.

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forum...ic=49637&st=60

[mcguyver]

I'll know later today, hopefully. I have Marui, Classic Army and Star mags so I'l try all the major brands.

[Urist]

Originally Posted by mcguyver

I'll know later today, hopefully. I have Marui, Classic Army and Star mags so I'l try all the major brands.

The TM mags worked just fine. Dunno about the rest.

[NicholasNystrom]

Originally Posted by Urist

They also pop out very easily, whether this is a good or bad thing I don't know yet.

I just got mine today, noticed the same thing. I'll have to pick up some G&P Mids or Star Mids.

DEA, any idea what motor the gun has? I heard that the US got a delay in their shipments because ICS is using the new turbo 3000 motor instead of the turbo 2000 motor. Just wondering what ones the canadian shipments got? Better ROF is a big plus to me.
TURBO 3,000 motors
Rated voltage 8.4V
The rating outputs 102W
Free-running speed 23,300 R.P.M (8.4V)
Biggest torsion 3,875 g.cm

TURBO 2,000 motors
Rated voltage 8.4V
The rating outputs 53.82W
Free-running speed 26,000 R.P.M (8.4V)
Biggest torsion 2,082 g.cm

either way, Im so getting one. My 1st gun was a TM SR16 and I learned my mistakes. Plastic + V2 = bad. Ill never buy a non-FMU again. After tossing piles of cash at my TM, I have a sweet gun, but after spending enough to buy 2 guns.
But the AK....is so damm sexy, I got a hardon the size of the CN tower for it. Thank god my Bday is a few days away and my fiance is gonna pay 1/2 for the AK.

[mcguyver]

Droc, I'm in the initial stages of a detailed review on the gun, but I can tell you this so far. It's a very solid gun and has the best mag fit of ANY Ak I could get my hands on. It fits Marui mags better than Marui's AK, Star mags are a nice fit will very little wobble, but Classic Army AK-47 lowcaps do have some wobble. The C.A. slr105 hi-cap is a very snug fit, snug enough to make it difficult to insert the mag at times.

The ICS hi-cap however is a perfect fit in all 3 AK's I tried and fits the C.A. better tha C.A.'s own mag. The same is true for the Marui as well.

The motor is a Turbo 2000 in the AK-74M and has a good rate-of-fire at a steady 15 rnds./sec. or 900 rnds./min. with an 8.4v battery.

This gun has so many neat little extras that you would be inclined to buy it even if it didn't shoot a bb, just for the esthetics of it. You'll have to wait for my review to be complete for an in-depth look at construction and performance, but thus far I can tell you it's gonna be a winner.

[Berkut]

intereresting bit of news... found on arnie's... :-? anybody can confirm / deny?!

[mcguyver]

I've run 1000+ rounds through my review sample and done a complete teardown and re-assembly. Seems to to be running fine so far.

Originally Posted by The Reptile House,Mar 5 2006, 09:24 AM

I think it's a bit off that ICS shipped what amounts to a test version to the UK. The version on global release now has the new motor, redesigned bevel gear, steel bushings etc.

Originally Posted by Soloman,Mar 5 2006, 09:30 AM

Mines borked. Range has gone ######-poor, i belive the hop-ups gone screwy. Sending it back to Z1 for repairing

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Originally Posted by The Reptile House,Mar 5 2006, 09:55 AM

My mate had the very same thing at Fireball yesterday. Had to switched to a TM AK47.

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Originally Posted by Soloman,Mar 5 2006, 10:12 AM

I think the hop's faulty, or there is an air leak in the gearbox. Chances it the hop.

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DEA, any word if you will be getting the new version?

[rileysault]

God Damnit... as if they pulled this shit... if only i waited a few more days before ordering i woulda heard the news. I feel cheated....

could just be random lemons, but it sucks that "all new ICS guns" get the new motor, redesigned bevel gear, steel bushings yet these new AKs dont.
I had $1k ready last night to send out today on AK stuff....but Im gonna pass till this stuff gets all sorted out.

[mcguyver]

Hey, the AK's do have metal bushings, the bevel gear is different, but the motor in my review sample is a turbo 2000. I can see that being changed as they make a short motor in the turbo 3000 and my sample is #256 off the line or something like that.

I can tell you after opening it that it was shimmed well, lube was good and the motor is connected with terminals vs. being soldered like a Marui.

If the motor thing bugs you, I wouldn't worry. The turbo 2000 will run a stock gun fine, but if you want to upgrade it, then get a different motor.

I'm going to game it in 2 weeks at "the boat" and I'll update my soon-to-come review with real usage info.

And trust me Droc, I have a Marui, a C.A. SLR105A1 and now the ICS and the ICS is the best AK hands down. When you put it in your hand for the first time, you know.