A meeting today with Canadian Customs

[mcguyver]

Originally Posted by Lynxicanus

Excuse my ignorance but what is a status card?

Sometimes called Treaty Cards. They issue them to those classified as Native, including many who are barely native (grandfather was, sort of thing). They allow you GST-exemption status, or other things like free post-secondary education, special hunting rights, and other treaty-specific things not always available to other bands.

I have a dozen+ reserves within an hour of me.

[DC_ACU]

thanks for summing that up for me mcguyver... theres a lot of reserves around here too, hard to grow up in this part of ontario and not know atleast 10 people that arent native *somehow*

lol
but it does make things a little better if you like scammin the government!


*i assume i'll be getting red flagged for this.

[Steve_U1S]

It's actually a PST exemption, not GST...

[mcguyver]

In Alberta, they get GST as well. I used to submit their card #'s when I did retail, years ago now.

[mopic]

Would covering the trades with a marker be appropriate? then removed with solvent after? Thanks for the info.

[Styrak]

Canada doesn't care about trades. You should read the FAQ, and do some research.

[Molson]

Originally Posted by Styrak

Canada doesn't care about trades. You should read the FAQ, and do some research.

You may have missed the first post. But seems the CBSA SOP's say otherwise.

He said they would permit airsoft guns into Canada if the following conditions were met:

1) must shoot under 500 FPS.
2) must have a plastic body
3) must not have any trademarks that match a manufacturer of real firearms
4) must be able to demonstrate that the magazine could not be capable of being used to load real ammunition
5) must have a orange muzzle tip
6) must be declared at the border and a 15% duty paid
7) must be transported in the trunk of the vehicle

He also indicated, indirectly, that the attitude, appearance and "air of responsibility" of the person crossing the border would play a factor.

Ultimately, however, they could still reject an airsoft gun meeting the above criteria. Sole discretion lies with the Customs Officer to make the call.

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by Molson

You may have missed the first post. But seems the CBSA SOP's say otherwise.

He said they would permit airsoft guns into Canada if the following conditions were met:

1) must shoot under 500 FPS.
2) must have a plastic body
3) must not have any trademarks that match a manufacturer of real firearms
4) must be able to demonstrate that the magazine could not be capable of being used to load real ammunition
5) must have a orange muzzle tip
6) must be declared at the border and a 15% duty paid
7) must be transported in the trunk of the vehicle

He also indicated, indirectly, that the attitude, appearance and "air of responsibility" of the person crossing the border would play a factor.

Ultimately, however, they could still reject an airsoft gun meeting the above criteria. Sole discretion lies with the Customs Officer to make the call.

Note that HE (the border officer) said that, not written in a document by Canada.
Therefore, it holds no weight at all.

[dodger_me]

And from my understanding it is illegal to have trades on an airsoft gun in the states
"FROM MY UNDERSTANDING DOUCHE BAGS"
(i know im going to get flamed if this isnt correct)

[Molson]

Styrak, you'd be surprised at how strong SOPs and policies can be. A SOP is a document in Canada btw. Just because its not in a statute doesn't mean it can't be enforced. The Airsoftcanada FAQ is a good resource, but its not the be-all and end-all of what is legal and what is not. Having a face to face with the officer(s) that will be deciding whether you bring your AEG through, or whether you're getting a gloved finger in your rectum is always a good thing.
And, AFAIK, this IS a thread about doing research.

Mopic's question was valid. As, even in the US, they can bypass that rule by having the trades covered or temporarily altered. But I'm sure you already knew that, cause you read the FAQ and did the research.

[dodger_me]

He is just trying to raise his post count

[Ace of Spades©]

My bro has a comp next (2008) year out around Tonawanda, so I might be stopping by for some in store shopping =D.

*For the forum age Nazis, I will be 18 and age verified by that time thank you very much.

[Moz]

must be in a truck? How is that different from just shipping it? Typical Customs non-sense.

I bet I could import a non folded full auto AK receiver no sweat.

[BBS]

so we've always been in the dark and had the truth hiding from us...

Does this mean the orange tip and the "no trademarks" rule only applies to importation? that means when we get across the border we can remove the tip and and trades?

great news!

[The Saint]

Er, we never had to keep the orange tip. It holds no legal significance in Canada, the same way the trademarks on our Asia-direct imports have seldom been tampered with, even when CBSA inspects them.

Molson is right in that the SOP of the CBSA is what'll govern our encounters with them. However, Styrak's position is also valid, the SOP of the CBSA is rather a stretch of the CCC and CFA. It's the same way that the police doesn't prosecute us for acquisition or transfer. Thank god for small favours, though like it's already been said, keep mindful that the law itself hasn't changed and it still isn't on our side.