The M82A1

[thePiRaTE!!]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

it stays... gastank is about half a bottle of 800ml gas... so the difference is not really big ;-)

So Spitfire, in regards to an earlier question I'd asked, do you know if the reservoir in your VFC there is like a mag, in terms of having to watch how much gas you leave in there when your done for the day, or is it more like little tank of gas that you can leave full all the time in case the urge takes you?

Thx.

[FieroGT]

Originally Posted by bean

Only if it shoots 500 fps and 5.7 joules. It has to meet both requirments.

Oooohh I wasnt aware of the joules limit. Good to know.

[thePiRaTE!!]

Originally Posted by FieroGT

Oooohh I wasnt aware of the joules limit. Good to know.

Yes, the rule is - if you'de never want to be hit in the joules by a particular gun, its shooting too hard.

[Deathcom4]

I must say the m82 is a good rifle ever since i got one it shoots awsome i have had no probblems with it i have a few targets on joc that are going to be shot by it so im happy

[nic_s]

Originally Posted by FieroGT

So once you set it back up to 700fps THEN you'll need a lisence and regy for it. Which is wouldnt get anyways cause I think Barrets are prohibited in Canada, plus you'd need to pin it at 10 rounds hahah. Anything over 500 needs to be registered. I dont know why people go around telling others on here their airsoft shoots over that. Yer M24 is an illegal firearm dude.

I have personally modified a gun to shoot around 500, and noone ever complained it shot too hard.

[Spitfire]

no emergency tank... empty means empty...

[thePiRaTE!!]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

no emergency tank... empty means empty...

no, no sorry. What I mean is, are there rubber valves on the reservoir, or is it like a little storage tank in there? For example, you can't leave too much or too little pressure in a GBB mag or its bad for the seals, is it like that in the M82? Or can you leave it full of gas all the time?

[FieroGT]

Originally Posted by nic_s

I have personally modified a gun to shoot around 500, and noone ever complained it shot too hard.

I dont see what that has to do with the point I was making. However its no longer relevant, as I wasnt aware of a rifle having to meet both requirements, FPS and joules to be considered a firearm. If you do the math his M24 is JUST under the limit, but something like .3 Joules.

[Spitfire]

no you should not let the tank be full of gas, when you put it under your bed... is like in GBBs, there you shouldn't either...

[thePiRaTE!!]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

no you should not let the tank be full of gas, when you put it under your bed... is like in GBBs, there you shouldn't either...

Thx Spitfire. Thats a drawback I reckon considering the size of the tank. How many shots do you get off a full tank, and does that number change dramatically with cool outdoor or evening play?

I'd say I'm pretty much a fair weather type guy, 8-25 celcius. At roughly what tempurature would performance likely begin to diminish?

[Spitfire]

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well, i think aprox 120 shots...
i plaied with it when it was 10 °C and had no probs... it doesent really matter when it gets a little cooler... even if, i hav always y gasbottle with me, so i can refil...

[thePiRaTE!!]

Just as an update here fellas, I did an exhaustive search for experience and facts regarding the VFC M82A1 and came up with mostly disappointed owners. An extensive thread, posted at Arnies (link below) chronicles several owners who lusted for, then received and reviewed their version 1's with very poor results.

Cliff notes:

3 version 1's reviewed.

- 2 came with broken valves for the gas system, parts were sent by VFC. VFC claimed to switch o-ring manufacturers after customer issues.
- all had hop-up problems leading to wild shots past 70 feet, no real solution, _apparently_ its a finicky/flawed design.
- 35lb trigger pull, one user noted bruised finger after playing with it first time.
- gas mechanism relys on a spring to remain closed, thus the pressure exerted on the spring caused it to eventually weaken and fail, creating a leaky tank. 2 spoke of eventual failure, 80 shots seemed to be the magic number. Reinforced replacements were sent by VFC, but the design was the same...
- mag had issues in 2 that forced the user to eject and replace the mag after each shot, 1 user found a fix.
- all agreed the build and materials was very solid and that the gun was great to look at (yay!)

version 1 consensus: expensive, if impressive paperweight

1 version 2 (mid-term) reviewed

- worked out of the box, no leaks after 350 approx shots on 134a.

consensus: 1 happy back-yard plinker.

General - It is worthwhile to note that the internal design was the same between both v1's and 2's. The 2 apparently incorporates the reinforced parts and 're-bracketed' the internals so as to make disassembly easier. The impression I take from this is that there is weak link in the design. I'll reconsider a purchase until more reviews come in of the mid-terms. I have to wonder however - would it not be possible to simply keep a little baggy of springs around? I wonder how hard it would be to replace them or put in an after-market gas tank. hmmph.



Link to source for notes: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forum...howtopic=18395


Is yours a mid-term Spitfire?

[Spitfire]

yes, mid term type, version 2...
hopup is great! with redgas hits at 150 to 200 meeters... (=450-600 feet??)

[thePiRaTE!!]

Well thats two positives for mid-terms, thanks Spitfire. Also noteworthy in light of your post here is that also mentioned in that link from Arnies, information received by one of the users from VFC:

Originally Posted by Joy Chang @ VFC

Thanks very much for your email and query.

1. Sorry to let you know that Barrett M82A1 will be ready in the end of September.

2. General speaking, we suggest to use Green Gas (12kg) and the 0.7g 8mm aluminum ball to make the outstanding impression.

3. Before every Barrett sending out, we had strictly quality test. However to avoid some customer to face the problems of leaking. (mostly about o-ring) We change the O-ring vender. In addition, next lot of Barrett M82A1 will make the improvement on the parts/system combination.

Thank you very much.

Best Regards,

Joy Chang

I wonder if the original versions were simply designed with higher weight shots than airsoft .34 plastic rounds could handle.

So, just to confirm again guys with the mid-term (I'm still on the fence here...)

- 1 happy user in the UK using 134a (ammo not specified)
- Spitfire is happy using .34gram 8mm bbs and hits out to !!600feet!!! please confirm that, thats insane!!! thats 4 times farther than an average AEG and certainly would justify the purchase.
- Deathcom4 is generally happy. What ammos, what gas, what ranges are you hitting?

Any other users have notes, good or bad? Does the hop-up still fling wild shots at all? Leaky tank?

Thanks guys.

[Spitfire]

well im not sure how many feet 200 meeters are... but sure 170 meters wit REDGAS and 0.34...