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Old January 8th, 2006, 16:33   #106
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you can always use the .88g metal ball bearing like piper precision sells for their mini-guns. "they" say that the gun shoots better with the "steel".
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Old January 8th, 2006, 16:49   #107
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yes, but i dont want to kill people... actually...
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Old January 8th, 2006, 17:01   #108
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yes, but i dont want to kill people... actually...
Of course not :lol: Its just that the manufacturer, even in the case of the M82 has recommended hi powered ammo for the best performance of the gun. Not that you would use it in a game. I would be interested to see what the performance of the VFC M82 mid-term would be using the .7 aluminum balls as recommended in Joy's letter (for target practice ) but as you say Spitfire, your gun performs well now using the .34. May I ask what your MOA is at 170 meters?
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Old January 8th, 2006, 22:08   #109
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FYI, I got this from the Firearms Act:

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Following are some weapons and devices that meet the definition of a firearm but that are deemed not to be firearms for purposes of the Firearms Act and related offences in the Criminal Code. Some of these items are exempted from the definition only if they were designed exclusively for a specific purpose and are intended to be used exclusively for that purpose by the person who possesses it. However, all of the items listed below are considered to be firearms if used in a criminal or negligent manner.

* Antique firearms;
* Devices designed exclusively for signalling, for notifying of distress, for firing blank cartridges or for firing stud cartridges, explosive-driven rivets or other industrial projectiles;
* Shooting devices designed exclusively forslaughtering domestic animals, tranquilizing animals, or discharging projectiles with lines attached to them;
* Air guns and other barreled weapons designed to have:
- A muzzle velocity of 152.4 meters (500 feet) per second or less and/or
- A muzzle energy of 5.7 joules (4.2 foot pounds) or less.


I posted this info just for something to consider since the gov't & their enforcement of laws make no sense most of the time. ;-)

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Old January 9th, 2006, 12:11   #110
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what is MOA on 170 meters??
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Old January 9th, 2006, 13:06   #111
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Minute of Angle, it's how close the shots are together at 170 meters.
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Old January 9th, 2006, 13:11   #112
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good question... very small ... thats all i can say
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Old January 12th, 2006, 14:13   #113
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for the love of god NO! what the hell would you ever need that kind of power for, plus the weight and size....try climbing a tree with that heavy over-kill hunk of crap, get something a little more practical man, like a Super 9
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Old January 12th, 2006, 16:07   #114
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i've never said i'd use steelbullets and redgas... and i also wont try it... too dangerous...
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Old January 12th, 2006, 16:32   #115
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for the love of god NO! what the hell would you ever need that kind of power for, plus the weight and size....try climbing a tree with that heavy over-kill hunk of crap, get something a little more practical man, like a Super 9
You call the the m82a1 a hunk of crap, I beg to differ. The only crap I've heard all revolves around the super 9 and its shell ejecting problems. But none the less if I was to use steel ammuntion I would take it to the range to dangerous for backyard plinking.
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Old January 12th, 2006, 16:34   #116
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http://mosskito.mo.funpic.de/m82a1/

-> some really bad f*** pictures... with streetgear
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Old January 12th, 2006, 17:12   #117
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Old January 12th, 2006, 17:40   #118
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Holy hell, it looks godly, like you could destroy anything at any time. Know I know god does exist, it's whoever holds that rifle, so I guess there are many gods.

Oh and is it a blow back? As in, does it cycle every shot like the real thing? Does it have to be racked to load the first BB?
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Old January 13th, 2006, 03:09   #119
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for the love of god NO! what the hell would you ever need that kind of power for, plus the weight and size....try climbing a tree with that heavy over-kill hunk of crap, get something a little more practical man, like a Super 9
lol. Wow, all that research I've done and NOW you tell me its a hunk of crap. Your argument is compelling.

It seems however - on a completely unrelated note - that for those who might wish to get straight to the field on a tight budget with a weapon they can climb trees with, the price and listed specs seem pretty sweet on that Super 9. I however fall into none of these catagories, but thanks for coming out with that.


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Holy hell, it looks godly, like you could destroy anything at any time. Know I know god does exist, it's whoever holds that rifle, so I guess there are many gods.

Oh and is it a blow back? As in, does it cycle every shot like the real thing? Does it have to be racked to load the first BB?
I think I know what Mcguyver meant about the reactions this would elicit when producing one one from your car in the staging area now. Its all becoming clear.

Hey Rump, unfortunately its non-blowback. It is however, semi-auto with a 40 round mag. There are various reports of the accuracy and range of this gun in its mid-term format, so it remains to be seen (by me) if it will live up to its looks in practical use. Actually, that why I'm in this thread myself! Hopefully we'll hear back from the pros.
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Old January 13th, 2006, 07:51   #120
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ah yes, i almost forgott... it makes a loud boom... :rocket:
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