Ares wa 2000

[Amos]

Geeze... a spring bullpup would be a pain in the ass to cock.

[Disco_Dante]

Well they were designed with cocking being a necessary part of use... so I would assume they're not THAT bad. Plus the cocking handle looks a lot more prominent than it is on the real steel, so I think ARES has taken that into consideration. Hopefully it uses APS internals, and not some new system devised by ARES.

[Disco_Dante]

Update, WA2000 will use TM VSR internals, yay!

[kullwarrior]

Originally Posted by Rock 'N' Roll Outlaw

Not all bullpups are prohibited. If thats the case then how come the Tavor or PS90 are legal to own and import?

Tavor does not exist before 1997 that's why's it's not on the list
PS90 is made in the states which before 2009 US DOD refuse to export it

btw I asked Wendy Cukier of coalition for gun control, norinco t97, iwi tavor, ps90, fs2000 are on the list to be banned. And no it doesn't have to go thru parliament. Order of council can do it easily like how norinco t97 is now restricted

[Donster]

Originally Posted by Disco_Dante

Update, WA2000 will use TM VSR internals, yay!

Where did you find that info?

that is great news! my only concern is the location of the mag. if its located so far forward (since it wont be a true bullpup), then the inner barrel length will be VERY short. that would = less accuracy.

someone correct me if im wrong.

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by kullwarrior

Tavor does not exist before 1997 that's why's it's not on the list

The restricted and prohibited list predates and was inherited by C-68. Tavor being created later has nothing to do with it not being on the list.

btw I asked Wendy Cukier of coalition for gun control, norinco t97, iwi tavor, ps90, fs2000 are on the list to be banned. And no it doesn't have to go thru parliament. Order of council can do it easily like how norinco t97 is now restricted

....You might want to check your sources. Norinco Type 97 is not on the list. The issue with it is not related to its bullpup config.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/SOR-98-462/FullText.html

Please don't spread misinformation, and do your own homework instead of asking one of the most biased sources possible on the subject. You also obviously am not as familiar with the law as you think.

[kullwarrior]

Originally Posted by The Saint

The restricted and prohibited list predates and was inherited by C-68. Tavor being created later has nothing to do with it not being on the list.



....You might want to check your sources. Norinco Type 97 is not on the list. The issue with it is not related to its bullpup config.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/SOR-98-462/FullText.html

Please don't spread misinformation, and do your own homework instead of asking one of the most biased sources possible on the subject. You also obviously am not as familiar with the law as you think.

That's what it says on the Canada Ammo's page who is the source for importing T97, Canada Ammo's last shipment of T97 was seize because its apparently restricted. Don't shoot the parrot. As for the Prohibition order, there hasn't been one since 1998 if I recall correctly. so the date of manufacture does matter as if no such thing exist it wouldn't be on the ban list.

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by kullwarrior

That's what it says on the Canada Ammo's page who is the source for importing T97, Canada Ammo's last shipment of T97 was seize because its apparently restricted. Don't shoot the parrot.

I'm well aware of that. They still merrily offer the Type 97 on their website, so they expect the issue to be one of classification and to eventually clear up in their favour. That wouldn't be the case if they were looking at the Type 97 getting on the prohibited regulation list.

As for the Prohibition order, there hasn't been one since 1998 if I recall correctly. so the date of manufacture does matter as if no such thing exist it wouldn't be on the ban list.

The point is that if all bullpup were suppose to be prohibited, then the year would one went into production would've been meaningless. The government would've gone after all past, present and future bullpups.

[Disco_Dante]

Got the VSR bit off of ehobby's page for the gun.

[mousqueterre]

Version Quebecoise en construction...

le manuel que j utilise pour les mesures....

http://www.carlwalther.com/datatabs/...uebersicht.pdf

Juste avant les internes...



sa devrais donner ....

FOU/2000

action:semi-auto/automatique/blow back
magazine 10 coups
canada...:3000lbs-450fps-.30(180rounds)(air seulement)
Asie...=4500lbs-400fps-1200fps(0.232)(R=0.234)
construction:acier bleute 4 mm-2mm
poids charger-13 livres
Canon a raiyures 1-58 (0.233)(R=0.236)
Mecanisme: mecanique,pneumatique,regulateur fixe..
calibre:6mm/8mm
reservoir:interne
dimension:1:1
copie:95%


je vais rajouter des photos.... :snipe:

[Gunny_McSmith]

Nice mousqueterre g hate de voir ca.....jten commanderai p-e un plus tard si le prix est raisonnable....

[mousqueterre]

Presque finis la version canadiennne )))


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