Deadly Designs' Hybrid 66

[danhay]

Originally Posted by deadlydayne

I really Wish they didnt use those gay torx screws. I mean torx is good but the screws they used are shit. They have a short thread and very little chamfer so its hard to get started in the hole and easy to cross thread and strip.

I like the torx head fastener but you are bang on in that the ones WE chose to use are completely inadequate. I purchased my SCAR used and one of the front body screws was stripped out. I noticed this with paintball guns when I used to play years ago; steel screws mating with Al threads does not a happy combination make.

Originally Posted by deadlydayne

As for making the part out of stainless that would require different tooling. Maybe some CRS (Cold Rolled Steel)? I mean its cheaper and weaker than most steels but the only reason you need it is to keep from stripping, and with that you shouldnt have a problem.

This is just the type of discussion I hoped to kick off. As you can tell, my knowledge regarding metal fabrication and material selection is basically non-existent. I guess I should have merely stated the goal (threads that don't strip when you look at them wrong) as opposed to suggesting a material!

If you do ever make a part 015 in CRS, kindly let me know as I'd buy a few in a heartbeat!

I hear you on the rail width - please don't think I was advocating changing this as I do realize that it would make them absotively useless.

[Ninja_En_Short]

Kinda reminds me of a picture I saw of prototype in early dev stage. Good work.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Nice work,

but I'm not sure what it offers over the original butt stock ?

other than putting a pretty square corner in your nose

[deadlydayne]

Dan,
One of the only other reasons I suggested CRS was with the tooling I have I can cut it. (I stick mainly with aluminum which is complete different tooling required for steel) But the CRS is an exception.

I took no offense on the rails just telling everyone why I cant change them much.

Brian, The options it offers is the use of any M4 stock, any one htat will fit on the buffer tube, and that appeals to many people as they like/LOVE their M4 stocks more than the WE scars'

[danhay]

Here is some food for thought:

SCAR with AR stock at VLTOR booth at 2011 SHOT Show

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[deadlydayne]

Yea that was my original thought was to use that, But I personally think its too thick. My 66 is .7" thick total, so its just under 3/4", keep it light and small, If I do anything it will be to 3d mill the whole back half of the part so it matches something like the VLTOR


I love the handgaurd they have on that scar, I want one =D

[IRONSIGHT]

While I agree lighter is better, I have to agree with Brian that it is a little too squared off at the back and doesn't look quite right. If you made it as long as the RS part with the shape similar to an HK MP5 slither stock and hollowed it out from the inside for weight reduction, it would look better and also less likely to hurt your nose. It would also allow VFC SCAR owners (hint-hint) to use it on AEGs as well, with some minor wiring mods.

[deadlydayne]

its a machine bored and machine cut threads, Its a thru and thru hole, if your talking about wiring to your buffer tube it will work as is. Ill have to see what I can do for a thicker part.

[Kos-Mos]

Any update on this?

I could use one right about now since my hinge plate died...

[Adamlxlx]

Originally Posted by danhay

If I had a RS buffer tube I'd send it to you!

The only buffer tube I have is a part of my VFC M4. This is somewhat less than optimal for use with your hybrid 66 because it isn't a real buffer tube.



Part 015 is indicated in the photo below (click the thumbnail for the larger version):



Personally, I think the part should be stainless or something that won't strip in a light breeze as it is far too easy to mis-align the torx-head body scews. I don't know enough about the black art of metal fabrication so aside from higher material costs I have no idea what is involved in machining stainless versus Aluminium.

It sounds like the rails aren't totally ergonomic and I only use my rails to mount one flashlight so I'll hold off there.

I am interested in the hybrid 66 because I would like to mount a UBR stock on my SCAR ... cuz that would blow people's minds!

Cheers - Dan

I second the part 015

[deadlydayne]

I dont have much time now, but I just received a RS Buffer tube, so they will now be cut to RS/WE thread only. Like I told Adam mere seconds ago, I will have to look at part 15 for you guys. Hopefully my work load will lighten soon so I can get these parts made.