From chairsofter to airsofter - need input on (AR-15) GBB Rifles. WE only

marilynliddell · June 6th, 2018, 04:09

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Danke · June 6th, 2018, 10:24

WE was very much the go to gas gun in Canada for quite a while and you can find parts for them without too much trouble. You can also use a fair amount of real Colt parts on them too.

The weakness of pretty well all gas guns is the mag. On the WE there's an updated 2 piece version that's a lot better than the older types.

Because they're so prevalent I would say get age verified and look for a package for sale in the classifieds here and also visiting games to see a few of the more current brands. Once you lock into a brand and a stack of magazines it's a lot more effort to switch.

Danke · June 6th, 2018, 10:30

Current setup. Started as a closed bolt CQBR converted to open bolt. Doesn't mean the same as in RS so avoid closed bolt.

BioRage · June 6th, 2018, 10:47

Unless you're a gun tech guru like Danke, I've seen to many WE's break, and their cold weather performance unreliable for any gaming environment.

As you know M4's are very modular, and any brand you can buy parts.

If you plan on never seeing any games, you can probably get away with the WE, if you plan on trying out some local CQB fields in the GTA area, you should consider the TM MWS or GHK M4s.

Katipunero · June 6th, 2018, 14:12

I have both the WE PDW and the M4.

The PDW can be reliable if you take care of some items to mitigate disappointment in the future.

- Firing pin: switch it out to steel, it will mushroom over time or you'll have a dead firing situation since the pin can't push the mag valve anymore. If anything, switch out the FCG with a steel one to prevent other FCG issues such as valve locker breakage, auto sear wear, etc.

- Bolt catch: If you're using the PDW mags, you may have issues with the lever on the mag not pushing the bolt catch up high enough to engage bolt lock. I remedied this by gluing a small strip of kydex about 0.5mm thick underside the bolt catch lever to facilitate better contact with the mag lever and the catch.

- recoil spring guide: will break at the end of the upper receiver by the stock from repeated slams by the bolt carrier. Add a larger spring to over the existing spring to cushion further.

- charging handle: may break at the tip where it engages the bolt carrier. Do not buy a replacement PDW one, they are soft and will break again easily. Use an M4 one - however, you will need to file it at the guides and at the end in order to work.

Other than that, the PDW has a very sharp recoil since the bolt carrier is small and light.

The PDW in my opinion is much more reliable than an M4 if you follow the steps above.

You can slap the bolt release all day and it won't wear out anywhere near as fast compared to the M4.

Showe22 · June 18th, 2018, 20:40

A warning about upgrading:

Much of the WE is made out of lesser quality metal. If you upgrade to steel parts, the steel will eventually break the lesser quality metal. For example, a steel bolt is going to wear down the metal it comes in contact with.

I've had my feed lips broken by steel parts like an RA-Tech nozzle. I don't want to see other people go through the money pit troubles I had with WE. GHK, and KWA LM4 are going to be a bit less of a financial pain in the long run.

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June 6th, 2018, 04:09	#1
marilynliddell Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2018	From chairsofter to airsofter - need input on (AR-15) GBB Rifles. WE only cÃ¡c ĐIỀU cần nhận rÃµ VỀ MARKETING CHO MỌI NHÃ€ Marketing lÃ* bộ mÃ´n nghệ thuật nhằm lÃ´i kÃ©o khÃ¡ch hÃng sử dụng dịch vụ mÃ đơn vị đang tạo ra. NÃ³ khÃ´ng thuần tuÃ½ chỉ lÃ* cÃ¡c cÃ¡ch thức, những mẹo vặt mÃ* nÃ³ cÃ²n lÃ* cả một chiến lược tÃi ba nhằm xÃºc tiến doanh thu cho doanh nghiệp. Một nhÃ Marketing chuyÃªn nghiệp cần cÃ³ những tri thức nÃo? TÃ¬m hiểu dịch vụ SMS Minh PhÃºc tại đÃ¢y. Social Media lÃ một trong những thứ đầu tiÃªn bạn cần phải nắm rÃµ Biết được khÃ¡ch hÃng của bạn cần gÃ¬ vÃ muốn gÃ¬ CÃ³ tÃnh sÃ¡ng tạo vÃ đột phÃ¡ Biết cÃ¡ch quản lÃ½ mức giÃ¡ LuÃ´n cập nhật vÃ* đổi mới mÃ¬nh hướng tới cÃ¡c điều hăng hÃ¡i hơn Nắm rÃµ được kiến thức về Digital Marketing Thời đại cÃ´ng nghệ bÃ¹ng nổ, bạn cần luÃ´n phải update cÃ¡c thÃ´ng tin mới vÃ* những cÃ¡ch thức mới để thÃch hợp với thời đại. KhÃ´ng ngừng học hỏi để cập nhật bản thÃ¢n cũng như doanh nghiệp nhằm giÃºp cho chÃºng khÃ´ng ngừng tăng cường. cÃ¡c Ãch lợi mÃ* Digital Marketing đem lại TÃ¬m kiếm được khÃ¡ch hÃng tiềm năng vÃ tiếp cận một cÃ¡ch đơn giản hơn Tăng sự thịnh hÃnh của bạn trÃªn toÃn quốc đơn giản tiếp cận được khÃ¡ch hÃng yÃªu cầu khẩn hoang được tiềm năng sức mạnh mÃ cÃ´ng nghệ mang đến SMS Brandname Minh PhÃºc thứ khÃ* giới với điểm tốt vượt trội phÃ¡t triển thương hiệu của cÃ´ng ty Tiếp cận gần hơn đến với khÃ¡ch hÃng Chăm sÃ³c khÃ¡ch hÃng tinh tế nồng hậu vÃ* chu đÃ¡o MÃ³n lăng xÃª mới mẻ đem đến nhiều kỳ vọng Truyền vận tải thÃ´ng điệp chÃnh xÃ¡c SMS Minh PhÃºc cung cấp những dịch vụ Tin nhắn lăng xÃª thương hiệu thực hÃnh những chương trÃ¬nh bÃ¬nh chọn,... Tin nhắn chăm sÃ³c khÃ¡ch hÃng SMS Brandname chÃnh lÃ* một trong cÃ¡c thứ sức mạnh uy thế vÃ* mang đến tiềm năng lớn nhất đối với những cÃ´ng ty trong thời buổi hiện tại. Last edited by marilynliddell; September 21st, 2018 at 00:57..

June 6th, 2018, 10:24	#2
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	WE was very much the go to gas gun in Canada for quite a while and you can find parts for them without too much trouble. You can also use a fair amount of real Colt parts on them too. The weakness of pretty well all gas guns is the mag. On the WE there's an updated 2 piece version that's a lot better than the older types. Because they're so prevalent I would say get age verified and look for a package for sale in the classifieds here and also visiting games to see a few of the more current brands. Once you lock into a brand and a stack of magazines it's a lot more effort to switch. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

June 6th, 2018, 10:30	#3
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	Current setup. Started as a closed bolt CQBR converted to open bolt. Doesn't mean the same as in RS so avoid closed bolt. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

June 6th, 2018, 10:47	#4
BioRage Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto	Unless you're a gun tech guru like Danke, I've seen to many WE's break, and their cold weather performance unreliable for any gaming environment. As you know M4's are very modular, and any brand you can buy parts. If you plan on never seeing any games, you can probably get away with the WE, if you plan on trying out some local CQB fields in the GTA area, you should consider the TM MWS or GHK M4s.

June 6th, 2018, 14:12	#5
Katipunero Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Toronto	I have both the WE PDW and the M4. The PDW can be reliable if you take care of some items to mitigate disappointment in the future. - Firing pin: switch it out to steel, it will mushroom over time or you'll have a dead firing situation since the pin can't push the mag valve anymore. If anything, switch out the FCG with a steel one to prevent other FCG issues such as valve locker breakage, auto sear wear, etc. - Bolt catch: If you're using the PDW mags, you may have issues with the lever on the mag not pushing the bolt catch up high enough to engage bolt lock. I remedied this by gluing a small strip of kydex about 0.5mm thick underside the bolt catch lever to facilitate better contact with the mag lever and the catch. - recoil spring guide: will break at the end of the upper receiver by the stock from repeated slams by the bolt carrier. Add a larger spring to over the existing spring to cushion further. - charging handle: may break at the tip where it engages the bolt carrier. Do not buy a replacement PDW one, they are soft and will break again easily. Use an M4 one - however, you will need to file it at the guides and at the end in order to work. Other than that, the PDW has a very sharp recoil since the bolt carrier is small and light. The PDW in my opinion is much more reliable than an M4 if you follow the steps above. You can slap the bolt release all day and it won't wear out anywhere near as fast compared to the M4.

June 18th, 2018, 20:40	#6
Showe22 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2014	A warning about upgrading: Much of the WE is made out of lesser quality metal. If you upgrade to steel parts, the steel will eventually break the lesser quality metal. For example, a steel bolt is going to wear down the metal it comes in contact with. I've had my feed lips broken by steel parts like an RA-Tech nozzle. I don't want to see other people go through the money pit troubles I had with WE. GHK, and KWA LM4 are going to be a bit less of a financial pain in the long run.

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