WA M9 VS KJ M9

[Houston]

Sorry if my thread title is undescriptive.

Kid helped me alot on this subject via MSN and I thank him. He also offered to send me a picture of himself rubbing his nipples, sadly I declined.
I won't be able to shoot this very often other than in the basement, unless it's the odd occasion I go to the firing range to get the rifles scopes zeroed in, (pending their permittion), or I head out to the farm to have some fun (On my own remote land of course).
But, let's get on the the point of this thread.

Alright, based on 007airsoft, the prices are
(410 CAD for WA M9) (P.V.) and (350 CAD for the KJW M9) (F.M)
AA Surplus
(300 CAD for WA M9) and (249 CAD for the KJ M9)

There is a notibile difference in between price on both sites, $60 on 007 and over $100 on AA surplus;
But my question is, why is it so good? Whats the differance? Why the price differance?

The Kuan Ju M9 is Metal so it can use propane,
It's well.. metal, not plastic,
The fps on both guns is around 275 FPS,
But, doesn't have any trades, on the grip, or the slide.
Weak trigger spring? Has to be replaced after a couple thousand shots?

While the Western Arms is Plastic,
Can't use propane,
Has trades,
As I've read thru personal opinions on the net, and reviews, it's a bit more reliable than the Kuan Ju,


Now are you paying the extra sixty to hundred dollars just for a little bit more of reliabilty and trademarks?
For those who have held, and shot both and have compared them, please tell me your personal views on each one, and which I should go with.
Which feels more realistic to hold, shoot, which has more power, accuracy and which one has more reliabilty?

Greylocks, to answer your question, yes, I have read the reviews. I'm asking for the opinion of airsofters here, that have held them both.
I do not have the money to upgrade the WA to full metal. It will not leave it's stock form while I own it.

Thanks guys!

[rat]

i have the kj m9. the metal is cheap, but it is metal. fires nicely and according to many other members that i pmed prior to purchasing, is a freakin' workhorse of a sidearm. it is notorious for the safety to break....solution--> dont play with it....

as for the WA, i have never used their m9 variations. definitely not safe on propane and will cost a fortune to upgrade to full metal.

let your budget be your guide.

[integratyperx]

Yeah it's that simple really....honestly if you did your research you would know this...

As for reliability, I haven't personally handled the KJ but I've read enough posts in this forum alone that have nothing but good things to say about the KJW M9.

I think the WA M9 can use propane, but you have to get a flow-restrictor...not 100% sure, you can find out at the AI site. Another difference is the WA has a working decocker.

So yeah, KJ for value, WA for show.

[Houston]

Originally Posted by integratyperx

Yeah it's that simple really....honestly if you did your research you would know this...

As for reliability, I haven't personally handled the KJ but I've read enough posts in this forum alone that have nothing but good things to say about the KJW M9.

I think the WA M9 can use propane, but you have to get a flow-restrictor...not 100% sure, you can find out at the AI site. Another difference is the WA has a working decocker.

So yeah, KJ for value, WA for show.

Well, I did do alot of research, so now I came here asking for personal preferances..

I've read two positive reviews off of this site regarding the KJW M9, so from what I've heard, it's somewhat a decent gun. I have read reviews and such on the WA, which would be personal preferance, but that's only 2 reviews I've read, if there are lots of people out there who have held, own, or have atleast fired one of these guns, I'd like to hear about it! (Western Arms that is)

So integratyperx, you're saying that the KJ M9 will last longer (Value) than the WA? I find that hard to believe, but okay.. (Sorry if I misread that sentance)

A flow-restrictor only works in 1911's I believe.

Thanks for the input guys, please keep it ocming.

[666]

WA is more accurate, or at least that what I thought after shooting one. Looks better than KJ as well. Other than that it's just a collectors gun. I haven't used WA in the field, but I did use KJ M9 a lot, actually still using it. Rarely have problems with it. It all about mags, if you manage to get mags to work properly gun will work great, KJ has shorter range and fixed hop-up but pistols usually come out in CQB or when primary goes down. I usually use pistol at distances around 20 meters or less, so fixed hop-up works just great.

[Houston]

Originally Posted by 666

WA is more accurate, or at least that what I thought after shooting one. Looks better than KJ as well. Other than that it's just a collectors gun. I haven't used WA in the field, but I did use KJ M9 a lot, actually still using it. Rarely have problems with it. It all about mags, if you manage to get mags to work properly gun will work great, KJ has shorter range and fixed hop-up but pistols usually come out in CQB or when primary goes down. I usually use pistol at distances around 20 meters or less, so fixed hop-up works just great.

So WA would be good for the field or not? You said it's got good accuracy, and looks nice, but then you say other than the accuaracy and looks it's just a collectors gun; so yes or no over the KJ in the field. Thanks for the reply 666.

[integratyperx]

No, I wouldn't know which one would last longer. This is pure speculation, but I would assume WA because of the build quality. Although externally it would probably be the KJW.(metal)

What I meant was, what it comes down to is if you just need a GBB for skimrishing and beating up, one that works with no frills go for the KJW.

If you want something that looks good and is more realistic, not to say it performs poorly get a WA. I think WA's tend to shoot harder on duster (hence the need for flow-restrictors) than most other GBB's, from what I've read. Accuracy is due to the stock tightbore barrel.

I'm not saying you didn't do any research, I'm saying maybe you should do a bit more on these forums as well. I mean honestly I've never touched either of these guns and I got all this information from these forums or searching. WA vs KJW debates come up all the time, you wouldn't be the first. I don't want to sound rude, it's just the simple truth, I'm sorry if I offended you.

[Mantelope]

Stock WA M9s will work with propane for a longer time than a stock SVI, but not indefinitely.

The deal-breaker for me here is the feel. Nearly any WA gun wins by a huge margin in this capacity. I've got a WA SVI and a WE-Tech Hicapa... For the money I've spent on the WA, I could have gotten three heavy-ass, full metal Hicapas. If I had the choice again, I wouldn't have even bought one Hicapa...

[snowman]

>> Stock WA M9s will work with propane for a longer time than a stock SVI, but not indefinitely.

That's counter to every piece of evidence I've ever seen or read.

Anyway, someone mentioned the flow restrictor. AI's doesn't fit the M92, but you could make your own (it's just a small disk that fits in the back of the blowback unit, with a small hole in it - It will reduce the gas directed to move the slide back, hence reducing the impact and stress on the slide).

If you're just plinking indoors and want a great looking gun, get the WA. If you want a cheap gun to drag through the mud on skirmishes and need the fps from Propane year round (WA's run fine in cool weather on Propane/Green as do any other gun, it's all about pressure which is affected by ambient temperature - Propane/Green have no magical properties! ), get the KJW.

I'd also chip in a vote for the HFC, though, it's a better gun, by far, than the KJW.

Cheers.

[Houston]

So what you're saying is the Western Arms M9 isn't as good when it comes to skirmishing, but for looking pretty and shooting at targets it's excellent? Alright, it looks like I've got enough opinions from some intelligent people, thanks all!

[G_unit]

You have to ask yourself, are you going to skirmish with it and you want something reliable that your willing to abuse somewhat? Or are you going to sit there in your basement glaring at the trades thinking how bad ass they are saying "beretta 9mm". I would buy the KJW any day of the week before I'd buy a WA berreta, the KJW pistols are quite reliable, awesome skirmish pistols, and cheaper as well. Also consider, another 50 dollars for the WA berreta, now what could you do with a KJW, buy another mag, or a holster for it. Ultimately for me its saving money and getting the best bang for your buck.