Way cool new battery box from Laylax.....

[LUTNIT]

Originally Posted by ringsted

im sorry but why on earth would you use mini 9,6 600 mah batteries, when both GP intellect and elite makes the same pack with 1100 mah, 1400 mah and 1500 mah? is it because it is illegal to buy batteries from ebay or other overseas retailers in canadan and you onle have access to the 600 mah batteries?

Its because NiCd batteries are superior to NiMh in performance and reliability. I've had this discussion with Illusion in a thread here on ASC before, I still use NiMh because their easier to take care of but the hardcore people use only NiCd batteries.

[thePiRaTE!!]

Originally Posted by LUTNIT

Its because NiCd batteries are superior to NiMh in performance and reliability. I've had this discussion with Illusion in a thread here on ASC before, I still use NiMh because their easier to take care of but the hardcore people use only NiCd batteries.

I'd like to read this discussion. As far as I can tell, NiMH hold more mah in the same space as NiCd as well as a more even charge. I have both and prefer the NiMH from a use perspective... how is NiCd better than NiMH? Just curious.

Also, I wouldn't use this Laylax battery box. For the price you're closing in on the cost of the hurricane knock-off RDS and there are a plethora of places to put batteries without blocking up the rail with useless clutter. But I'm sure it will work well for someone or they wouldn't have bothered.

[LUTNIT]

Surprised how easily I found that, just got lucky with what page of the search results I randomly clicked on I guess.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...ghlight=winter

All 3 of my 7 cell NiCd packs register on my volt meter at 8.5-8.7V, my NiMh packs range from 8.3-9.1V. Also my charger (duratrax ICE, soooo nice if you can validate $200 for a charger) keeps track of how many mAh's it puts into the battery as it charged, my 600mAh NiCd's take a charge of 520-550mAh very consistently, my 3000mAh NiMh batteries, when fully discharged (was testing the charger, I don't normally do this to NiMh packs) where taking anywhere from 2050-2600mAh, a much larger variance, the same pack one charge would take 2500mAh and then do it again and it only takes 2100mAh, again and it took 2400mAh (was my spare battery and I was curious at the results so did further tests, I'm going to be getting 4200mAh packs to replace em so I wasn't too worried about ruining them.)

I still use NiMh packs because when your only using 500-1000mAh out of a pack it doesnt matter if it has a charge of 2000mAh or 2500mAh. The lower internal resistance (what increases the capacity partly) gives me a higher rate of fire (8.4V 4200mAh pack has a VERY noticeable higher rate of fire compared to an 8.4V 1700mAh pack) so thats why I like em even though its harder on the guns, have upgraded steel gears anyway and I don't mind having to replace a piston now and then though it hasn't happened yet.

[ringsted]

LUTNIT

im sorry but the time NiCd was superior to NiMh is long gone.

i remember trying to pull and M150 upgraded AEG with at 12v 600 mah pack, and it was simply impossible, these days i pull a M170 on a small 1400 pack.

please tell me just why or how, a small 600 mah celler can be superior to a 1400 cell, when the 1400 cell can be dischaged at 15 amps with almost no loss in voltage and the 600 mah cell struggles to pull a M100 AEG. if you doubt med try this place, www.cheapbatterypacks.com.

even if you put 2 600 mah cells in parallel they are still inferior to a single 1400 cell. even at low temperatures -10 degrees celcius the nimh celles deliver very nicely.

[Amazing KG3]

Originally Posted by ringsted

... a single 1400 cell. even at low temperatures -10 degrees celcius the nimh celles deliver very nicely.

agreed-my 1200 works nicely in low tempratures. I will always prefer NiMh until Li-Po is perfected.

[LUTNIT]

I posted what I found with my packs but I still use NiMh packs and have next to no experience with NiCd packs. I've just talked to a lot of people (airsoft, battery salesmen, R/C car, R/C helicopter/plane) and they say NiCd's are better.

Also I do order all my packs from cheapbatterypacks.com, I was ordering from there on the advice of my R/C car racing friend many months before I heard anyone on these forums mention the place (I can only assume people ordered from there before I did, I'm not trying to claim I found the place, but it was several months after my first order before I saw a link to the site on these forums).

[ringsted]

well the best NiCd packs in Sub C size i know of is 2400 mah, and back in the day, 4-5 years ago, they where the best you could get when you wanted nice ROF and a nice spring too.

but today the NiMh made by GP are 4300 mah, intellect have 4200 Mah and elite 4500 mah in the same size. and they can be discharged continualy at 30 amps, the fuses in systemas switch device is 25 A on M150. so they can more than deliver enough punch for an AEG, the nice thing is that they do deliver at a very high voltage since there is almost no drop, a guy i know, have an M4 with at systema magnum motor, promehtues tripple torque gears, and he runs 34 RPS yes 34 on an M140 Spring and a 13,2 volt 4200 mah intellect battery. so they can definatly deliver the juice. one of my team mates runs around 28 rps on M120 with prometheus torque gears and a systema turbo motor with at 9,6 volts 2800 mah intellect made by 2 9,6 1400 packs in parallel. he easily puts 8k rounds through it in a charge. i would like to see you do the same with 5 9,6 600 mah NiCd packs.

i my self runs 24,66 rps on M120 with at 10,8 2800 and a G&P M120HS motor.

also the NiCd are about to be phased out in denmark since the Cd is toxic and the Ni Mh batteries are not.

EDIT: the charger we use i a "grauper ultramat 14". which cost around 100 USD