Airsoft shotgun questions.

Bob the Angry Potato · November 25th, 2005, 14:03

I'm not sure why the SPAS-12 costs more, but I've heard it's a much better gun in most aspects (The Benelli apparently has some sort of internal deficiency that breaks it after a while, I think it's a weak nozzle). Also, as you said, the velocity is higher.

Sniper1111 · November 25th, 2005, 17:44

Is their a shotgun that ejects the shell after all the bb's have been fired. I overheard that their was, just wanted to know if their is any truth to that?

Nvm found the answer to my question...M1100 Shell ejecting ShotgunBLK MZN.

Greylocks · November 25th, 2005, 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorDeath

I've been thinking about buying one of the TM shotties. I know they both have basically the same internals and therefore same reliability. However I have heard that the SPAS shoots about 20 FPS more than the M3. Is this due to the longer barrel? Which is easier to pump? Why does the SPAS cost about 100$ more on most sites? Are the accuracy and range the same? Anyone who has used both, contributions appreciated.

Same gun from the same company with the same system; just a different frame and look.

The M3 Shorty may lose a few FPS because it's shorter.

Kid · November 25th, 2005, 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greylocks

The M3 Shorty may lose a few FPS because it's shorter.

Wasn't it found that they both had the same inner barrels? I may be wrong, but if so, you're buying for looks and usability with the exact same internals, etc.

TheToastmaster · November 26th, 2005, 02:24

The inner barrels are the same length. I'm 90% certain about that. I haven't held one's inner barrels up against the other's, but the aftermarket tightbores and such are the same for both of them.
As for the problem with the Cylinder breaking after so long with the M3, it's been found that it seems to only happen if you pump it too quickly for the bbs to load completely (specifically on the return forward). The SPAS 12 should have the same problem, but it seems to be less common (probably) because there are fewer of them.
The SPAS 12 that you see that's about $100 more has a full metal folding stock, that's why it's more, it's about the same price as the full size M3 without the stock.

Greylocks · November 26th, 2005, 09:41

It's been a while since I compared a full sized and shorty M3. So yes, I may be completely wrong about the barrel lenght.
However, both the SPAS and the M3 have essentially the same internal system. The M3 is, if I'm not incorrect again, the newer model of the two.
Having tried both, I far prefer the M3.

TheToastmaster · November 26th, 2005, 19:34

Right on all counts, Grey.
The full size M3 and short M3 also have the EXACT internals including the inner barrel (unless I'm totally out to lunch). The long M3's longer barrel is just longer on the outside. Before the shorty version was released, a lot of people cut down their outer barrels, since there are several inches of hollow metal there, making the gun over a meter long. :S

KoolGuy · December 28th, 2006, 15:55

So, is the long M3 alright to use? I was looking to get a shotgun, but I am a bit weary of the price; I could get the long one for about 80$ cheaper than the short one.

hattrick · December 28th, 2006, 16:01

+1 marushin 1887 hella durable, propane out of box. 8mm pain, nuff said

Greylocks · December 28th, 2006, 16:05

Yes, the long M3 is just fine. You did not have to revive a thread from last year.
Get age-verified.

bean · December 28th, 2006, 16:13

The long m3 is fine it is super accurate etc. Only problem comes from the crummy tri nozzle breaking if a pump is done wrong.

Greylocks · December 28th, 2006, 16:17

And it will only break if you insist on trying to pump it as hard as a real metal gun.
With normal care, nothing to worry about.

It's like the folks who break the (fake) charging handle on the MP5 series; they decided to open and slap-close it shut when you really have no need for that.

Remember that our guns are really fancy toys. That's all.

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November 26th, 2005, 02:24	#20
TheToastmaster Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Winnipeg. In a hole.	The inner barrels are the same length. I'm 90% certain about that. I haven't held one's inner barrels up against the other's, but the aftermarket tightbores and such are the same for both of them. As for the problem with the Cylinder breaking after so long with the M3, it's been found that it seems to only happen if you pump it too quickly for the bbs to load completely (specifically on the return forward). The SPAS 12 should have the same problem, but it seems to be less common (probably) because there are fewer of them. The SPAS 12 that you see that's about $100 more has a full metal folding stock, that's why it's more, it's about the same price as the full size M3 without the stock. __________________ Toast

November 26th, 2005, 19:34	#22
TheToastmaster Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Winnipeg. In a hole.	Right on all counts, Grey. The full size M3 and short M3 also have the EXACT internals including the inner barrel (unless I'm totally out to lunch). The long M3's longer barrel is just longer on the outside. Before the shorty version was released, a lot of people cut down their outer barrels, since there are several inches of hollow metal there, making the gun over a meter long. :S __________________ Toast

November 25th, 2005, 14:03	#16
Bob the Angry Potato *AV Status Suspended pending trade resolution* Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: A pile of empty boxes and broken dreams.	I'm not sure why the SPAS-12 costs more, but I've heard it's a much better gun in most aspects (The Benelli apparently has some sort of internal deficiency that breaks it after a while, I think it's a weak nozzle). Also, as you said, the velocity is higher.

November 25th, 2005, 17:44	#17
Sniper1111 Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: R35zilla	Is their a shotgun that ejects the shell after all the bb's have been fired. I overheard that their was, just wanted to know if their is any truth to that? Nvm found the answer to my question...M1100 Shell ejecting ShotgunBLK MZN.

November 26th, 2005, 09:41	#21
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	It's been a while since I compared a full sized and shorty M3. So yes, I may be completely wrong about the barrel lenght. However, both the SPAS and the M3 have essentially the same internal system. The M3 is, if I'm not incorrect again, the newer model of the two. Having tried both, I far prefer the M3.

December 28th, 2006, 15:55	#23
KoolGuy Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2006	So, is the long M3 alright to use? I was looking to get a shotgun, but I am a bit weary of the price; I could get the long one for about 80$ cheaper than the short one.

December 28th, 2006, 16:05	#25
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	Yes, the long M3 is just fine. You did not have to revive a thread from last year. Get age-verified.

December 28th, 2006, 16:13	#26
bean Administrator Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004	The long m3 is fine it is super accurate etc. Only problem comes from the crummy tri nozzle breaking if a pump is done wrong.

December 28th, 2006, 16:17	#27
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	And it will only break if you insist on trying to pump it as hard as a real metal gun. With normal care, nothing to worry about. It's like the folks who break the (fake) charging handle on the MP5 series; they decided to open and slap-close it shut when you really have no need for that. Remember that our guns are really fancy toys. That's all.

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