Type 97 Query:

[Luckyorwhat]

Read the thread here and other places. Has anyone handled one, or read of someone who did, who cared about anything fucking useful about the design?

http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/2072

They spend pages on how magnets stick to it, and fuck all about anything useful. Can anyone enlighten if the rear safety can be used frequently comfortably (ie engaged every time you move)? How about the charging handle? And the sights; too high, just right, apertures too big or small? What about with optics mounted? Magazine release, single-handed and doable with a loaded mag already in hand?

Really looking at one of these, but need interweb expertise to find useful information.

[Amos]

I'll get back to you in roughly 2 weeks.

Edit:

From what I know so far is that EVERYTHING is CNC'd, and made out of high grade steel or 7075 T6 Aluminum.

[Luckyorwhat]

rgr. Looks like you push the mag release button with the left index finger, which should be doable. Trigger guard seems spacious enough for gloves. But it might as well not have a safety at all, from appearances.


Compare fire selector on Tavor:
to T97:

[Sino]

http://www.realsword.com.hk/faq1.htm#7

[Luckyorwhat]

That's fucking awesome, perfect.

[peacekeeper]

ummm a tavor airsoft gun , i wish

[Donster]

Originally Posted by bazza

ummm a tavor airsoft gun , i wish

all in due time. It isn't a hard build at all. A company will definitely make one in the near future im sure. Case and point, a china company already made the MASADA before Magpul did. And apparently Magpul is making one too (i will pick that up cause its already have the MIAD grip and stuff on it). For the Tavor, im sure a china company is already in the process of working on it. Once they unveil it, another company will step and, and probably be licensed by Tavor as well. Just be patient

[Luckyorwhat]

Wonder if mag changes can be mastered... It seems to have an AR magazine, mag well, and magazine release, but instead of using right index finger it's done with left hand; you have to hold two magazines and also push a button - funked up.

Type 97 reloading = slow: YouTube - Chinese Type 97A semi-auto bullpup
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forum...owtopic=136962

Type 95 reloading = quick: YouTube - Chinese PLA single-hand-for-95 rifle cartridges???95???????

i have a RS Type 97 but after using it for 2 games, i honestly cant say its very ergonomical. the firing selector is all the way in the back. and the mag release is under the ejection port and is a small button. but as long as you use cover to reload, or you have a large capacity ar15/m16 drum magazine, you'll be fine. i use a TOP 1000rd magazine on my RS type 97 now cuz reloading is seriously a BITCH to do during a game.

[Styrak]

Hmm, the Type95 reloading is exactly the same as an AK.

[Sino]

Originally Posted by Luckyorwhat

Wonder if mag changes can be mastered... It seems to have an AR magazine, mag well, and magazine release, but instead of using right index finger it's done with left hand; you have to hold two magazines and also push a button - funked up.

Type 97 reloading = slow: YouTube - Chinese Type 97A semi-auto bullpup
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forum...owtopic=136962

Type 95 reloading = quick: YouTube - Chinese PLA single-hand-for-95 rifle cartridges???95???????

Type 97 reloading = slow = NOT REALLY, i tried to compare M4, AK and 97 reloading the list below:
M4 reload around 2~2.2 Sec
AK reload around 2.4~2.5 Sec
97 reload around 2.6~2.5 Sec
btw i did a Fucked up way, hold two mags........

[Amos]

It's just different, something that you've got to get use to.

Re-loading a bullpup is quite a bit different than a standard gun... I just wish they would have incorporated a system like the MP5 where you've got both a button and a lever.

[Luckyorwhat]

That's pretty great stuff there Sino, thanks, or shi shi. I tried mag changes while holding an M4 by the barrel with my right hand and was quite worried. Thanks for the good news.

P.S. Holding the full mag before removing the spent (even partially) one is highly recommended. Looks like retaining the empty mag might require dexterity, but you've shown it's quite possible so I'm sure if I practice it will become smooth.

P.P.S.
Thanks again for the pictures, but next time keep the finger off the trigger! Lol just noticed.