M4 Gbbr witch one to choose

[Curo]

Mate, im not mad. And I agree WE is the better option.

[Ballcancer]

Ctw is not a training weapon, it is only a rebrand of Systema. In terms of GBBR, if you want durability go with WE, open or close bolt, your choice. I say closed bolt because of durability. If you want awsome aesthetics in terms of what's steel and whats plastic, go with WE. If you want trades then either WA or Inokatsu. Also WE is 1:1 with real spec so real steel parts will fit many are drop in but some require a slight modification such as chargin handles and upper receivers.

[turok_t]

You know which system I would opt for

[viking9934]

is it real steel vltor upper?

I own a M14 from We and A kwa mp9 and usp. I like them alot, but i like the quality of the fitting on kwa better.

Inokatsu would be my dream but at 1400$ and more i'm not sure.....

anyone know the aftermarket option for outer barrel(lenght) We vs Kwa?

[leblanc74]

Hey Sacre....that KWA MAGPUL...Does the stock have a little play since it is't a CRT?...the handguard...does it move from side to side since it it's only held but tension springs?

You mentioned the made in Taiwan can be removed...can you elaborate, thank you for your response

[Eeyore]

Originally Posted by leblanc74

Hey Sacre....that KWA MAGPUL...Does the stock have a little play since it is't a CRT?...the handguard...does it move from side to side since it it's only held but tension springs?

You mentioned the made in Taiwan can be removed...can you elaborate, thank you for your response

The handguard is rock solid, the stock has the slightest bit of play but nothing that would be considered low quality. Infact so far it has the nicest externals out of any gbbr I've seen so far.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by Sacre

But again the selling point for me is the bolt having the contact points reinforced with a tiny piece of what looks like hardened steel

The bolt carrier is not what you worry about, it's the nozzle that will break.

[leblanc74]

Originally Posted by Eeyore

The handguard is rock solid, the stock has the slightest bit of play but nothing that would be considered low quality. Infact so far it has the nicest externals out of any gbbr I've seen so far.

That means the delta ring is very stiff like a PTW systema...sounds good..
For the stock, just need a CRT, that is why they came up with it's locking pressure mech.

How about that made in Taiwan....any solution?



P.S. By the way...Turok...nice conversion of real steal....i also converted a MUR for my used to have PTWs...I also converted a COLT A2 upper for that almost all real steal PTW XM 177A2....i wonder who has them now....

[T@NK]

Originally Posted by Ballcancer

Ctw is not a training weapon, it is only a rebrand of Systema. In terms of GBBR, if you want durability go with WE, open or close bolt, your choice. I say closed bolt because of durability. If you want awsome aesthetics in terms of what's steel and whats plastic, go with WE. If you want trades then either WA or Inokatsu. Also WE is 1:1 with real spec so real steel parts will fit many are drop in but some require a slight modification such as chargin handles and upper receivers.

1, CTW is not a rebrand of systema, it's a stupid problem making clone.
2, Inokatsu/Prime can also use real steel upper and require less mod than WE do, they are real steel spec as well, any real steel parts you can drop on WE you can drop them on Ino/Prime too.
3, WE lower reciever: milled aluminum, Inokatsu lower reciever: forged aluminum, Prime lower reciever: forged aluminum. so there is no such saying of aesthetic for WE.

WE is a great operating platform, just like the one I have, the only reason I pick a WE is because they are more affordable, much cheaper than a Ino/Prime, in terms of reliability, they are the same.

[Qlong]

You actually stated both production and finishing processes, to be more accurate all of the receivers are milled to spec in the end. WE receivers are cast from a white metal, Inokatsu receivers are forged from and milled to spec from 7075 aluminum, Prime is just completely milled from 6061 aluminum.

The inokatsu, depending on generation also has compatibility issues, I wasn't able to interchange uppers with the first gen. but have with the older and more recent generation receivers.

[viking9934]

thanks all, i have made my choice....WE!

anyone know if there's aftermarket option for outer barrel?

[Eeyore]

Originally Posted by viking9934

thanks all, i have made my choice....WE!

anyone know if there's aftermarket option for outer barrel?

There are tons of after market barrels for WE. Form 5" all the way to 24".

[leblanc74]

Originally Posted by viking9934

thanks all, i have made my choice....WE!

anyone know if there's aftermarket option for outer barrel?

Good choice....my favorite WE is the PDW regular barrel lenght and the XM177

[R1ghty]

NVM, Didn't realize Prime was WA

[Sequential]

Originally Posted by turok_t

You know which system I would opt for

God damn is that a KWA?