P226

[jumpin]

Sorry Man- but you should really try to get your hands on each and handle them, and if possible fire them. Thant's the only way you will know if you can notice the difference. Dave's has a KJW P226 (that's where I bought mine ) and I handled it and fired it (super nice guys there BTW).

For me, and yes it is personal, the feel and heft of metal won hands down. Yes you could by a TM and upgrade it with metal parts- it would most likely be a "better" gun at a higher price. Again, this is a personal choice on what represents the best value for each person.

For me, as my pistol will definitely be my least used weapon, I was comfortable with the price vs. cost balance. Just for perspective, I have ordered a Systema M4A1 PTW kit which I will build and use as my primary weapon. I know there is an example where the cost was quite high, and I could have gone with a TM M4A1 and fully upgraded it with metal and upgrade parts, and when I would be all said and done with accessories etc, I would still be at half the cost. For me, the Systema was the best value.

Probably didn't help again... :banghead:

Originally Posted by dlp

As many have said...go with the TM, you won't notice the metal and, in the event you do, you can always upgrade to full metal.

[Rumpel Felt]

I would normally agree completely and I do pretty much this time. I just heard there were defects or something with the KJW and it didn't feel as nice. I only suggested the TM this time for the purpose of basicly buying it for the few internal parts you end up keeping. They screw you again by charging like 300 for a plastic mold that probably costs them a couple bucks a most to make.

Anyway, I "got" one only for the purpose of adding many of Guarder's nice parts to it. Since 90% of it didn't even come from the TM factory, I designate it the Gaurder P226 with bloody well expensive little internal parts and operating levers.

jumpin is right though. It is a much smarter choice to get the KJW as it usually always is smarter to avoid TM.

[BloodSport]

I got in on Tru's first order of the TM P226 and it is by far my favourite pistol, and I used it more then I used my AEG's last year.

The Creation slides are not badly priced, and are easily installed if you really want the metal slide. And parts are easily found for it as well. In fact, I've bought just about every part you can find for the TM P226 and upgraded mine to the tits. One internal stock part broke on me, and until just recently it was not offered in an upgraded piece, but now is from Guarder (valve stopper) which shouldnt break unless you do what I did to mine. Which was make it shoot as hard and as far as upgraded AEG's can. Please note that on top of the Creation Slide ($200 ish), I have put in several hundred more in internals on mine to do so, such as tightbore innerbarrel, loading nozzle, power bulb, firefly rocket valve system, Nineball bearing recoil rod and spring set, hammer spring and so on.

Personally, I've seen to many problems with KJW's and their lack of replacement parts more often then not turn them into metal paper weights.

The TM will cost you more, but in the long run I'd rather have a gun that is fixable, repairable, and upgradable versus a paper weight.

But meh, tis your money and you can spend it how you choose.

[stokes]

I have just recieved the KJW p226. I must say I am impressed. The gun is heavy and has a really nice feel to it. Once you purchase the gun all you need to replace is the loading/gas nozzle in the slide and your set. This gun is alittle picky about dirt and debris so give it a nice clean and lube job after or b4 every use. This will ensure less jammings and miss-feeds.

So I say go for the KJW p226.

[Renegade)]

Originally Posted by wiseowl

I got in on Tru's first order of the TM P226 and it is by far my favourite pistol, and I used it more then I used my AEG's last year.

The Creation slides are not badly priced, and are easily installed if you really want the metal slide. And parts are easily found for it as well. In fact, I've bought just about every part you can find for the TM P226 and upgraded mine to the tits. One internal stock part broke on me, and until just recently it was not offered in an upgraded piece, but now is from Guarder (valve stopper) which shouldnt break unless you do what I did to mine. Which was make it shoot as hard and as far as upgraded AEG's can. Please note that on top of the Creation Slide ($200 ish), I have put in several hundred more in internals on mine to do so, such as tightbore innerbarrel, loading nozzle, power bulb, firefly rocket valve system, Nineball bearing recoil rod and spring set, hammer spring and so on.

Personally, I've seen to many problems with KJW's and their lack of replacement parts more often then not turn them into metal paper weights.

The TM will cost you more, but in the long run I'd rather have a gun that is fixable, repairable, and upgradable versus a paper weight.

But meh, tis your money and you can spend it how you choose.

I wouldn't mind seeing a few pictures of your P226 Compare it with my own, see what you've done and give me some ideas!

[BloodSport]

Originally Posted by Renegade

I wouldn't mind seeing a few pictures of your P226 Compare it with my own, see what you've done and give me some ideas!

Heh heh soon... soon.... getting ready to do a new gallery shoot of my guns.

[OfficerChan]

I'm pretty much sold to the TM, I know KJW would be a better idea, but I've read somewhere (no really, i did) on this forum that the valve (forgot which one, how convienent, i know) broke and he couldn't replace it. So, since tm has more parts available for repairs and upgrades, I think I'll just go with that. Afterall, there is no point in having a secondary, if your secondary won't work, since you only have the secondary incase your primary is inoperable. But thanks for all your input guys.

[Renegade)]

Originally Posted by OfficerChan

I'm pretty much sold to the TM, I know KJW would be a better idea, but I've read somewhere (no really, i did) on this forum that the valve (forgot which one, how convienent, i know) broke and he couldn't replace it. So, since tm has more parts available for repairs and upgrades, I think I'll just go with that. Afterall, there is no point in having a secondary, if your secondary won't work, since you only have the secondary incase your primary is inoperable. But thanks for all your input guys.

Right and keep in mind unless yout floating in money, its only a secondary. Sink your main funds into a good AEG. My TM P226 is still the same as when I bought it from Torn, and I havnt changed a thing to it, only upgrade he did was a tightbore barrel which I love as well, other then that, all ive done is use it, and maintain it with silicone oil. You wont even mind the plastic, you might even find its lighter and such, and prefer that for quick shots, ect.

[Renegade)]

Originally Posted by OfficerChan

I'm pretty much sold to the TM, I know KJW would be a better idea, but I've read somewhere (no really, i did) on this forum that the valve (forgot which one, how convienent, i know) broke and he couldn't replace it. So, since tm has more parts available for repairs and upgrades, I think I'll just go with that. Afterall, there is no point in having a secondary, if your secondary won't work, since you only have the secondary incase your primary is inoperable. But thanks for all your input guys.

Right and keep in mind unless you have deep pockets, its only a secondary. Sink your main funds into a good AEG. My TM P226 is still the same as when I bought it from Torn, and I havnt changed a thing to it, only upgrade he did was a tightbore barrel which I love as well, other then that, all ive done is use it, and maintain it with silicone oil. You wont even mind the plastic, you might even find its lighter and such, and prefer that for quick shots, ect.

[Renegade)]

Whoa... I dual posted for some reason, ignore the top one, it must have doubled when I went to change a typo, or something.

[edcecec]

ok, here's my case...i want a p226 as well, much preferably a full metal one and i see some of you have mentioned a wgc and from some research, that's a store in hong kong? i live in toronto and from what i understand, you can not legally import airsoft guns from out of the country, everything must be bought within canada (for residents of ontario at least). so besides kjw and besides customized tm's from wgc or spending ~$500 upgrading a tm, anyone have any suggestions for a p226 full metal.
i'm actually trying to decide b/w the p226 and the usp .45 (again, full metal preferably) so if you have any recommendations for a usp .45 or p226, that'd be great.

[BloodSport]

Did you read any of this thread or the links I provided you in your thread?

All of your questions have been asked, please take some time to read the posts in those links, you'd be surprised your answers are there about 20 times over.

Thats all we ask, please do some research, several of your questions are answered in this thread alone.